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Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:56 am**

My quest, and experiment, of using nothing but wire and canvas birds this season officially started this morning. I got behind in completing them all the way and have 3 that I need to do some balance adjustments to, but I have to say it was pretty cool seeing my hand made birds out in the water. Too bad I couldnt get some pics with dead birds. No big push of birds around here yet.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:59 am**

Congratulations Rick! That's an awesome accomplishment!

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:05 am**

Thanks, hopefully the lead ordered will get here soon and I can the ones needing balancing fixed up.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:24 pm**

How durable are they?

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:52 pm**

Flightstopper wrote:How durable are they?

I'd like to know this too. Also how do you waterproof the canvas? The paint do it?

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Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:37 pm**

The canvas is 100% cotton. After it is put on and wetted with a water/gesso mix is shrinks. While the outside is coated with gesso and then paint the inside is not so the canvas is not totally waterproof much like the sails made from the same material years ago.
Market hunters made these to boost their rig numbers without a lot of expense but I havent found any literature on durability and longevity.
This season will be a long experiment to find these answers.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:43 pm**

If you need a staffer to help with durability tests I could probably help you out.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:02 pm**

The rcp felt like a real quality decoy that would last a long time. It would be really cool to come see you make a few sometime.

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Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:37 pm**

The Duck Hammer wrote:The rcp felt like a real quality decoy that would last a long time. It would be really cool to come see you make a few sometime.

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Thanks DH, making the RCP was as interesting as any due to not having any real specific dimensions to go by but fun none the less.
Dont know about a few as it takes a few days for me to do one with work and all. But if I have everything ready to put together its possible to do one in a day, ready to paint. The heads usually take 4 - 6 hours, getting the canvas on the readied frame 3 - 6 hours as I do them with a knife and rasp.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:44 pm**

I'm interested in seeing the framework come together. Carving the head and paint seem pretty strait forward.

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Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:48 pm**

The Duck Hammer wrote:I don't have time for all that jazz. I only want to watch you do about 15 minutes of work before touching all of your tools, so just show me the framework come together. Carving the head and paint seem pretty strait forward for any ol' Joe.

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FIFY...

While it may be straight forward, I think that watching someone carve the head would be pretty cool. There is a lot of skill that goes into making the head come to life. Paint too...

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:53 pm**

Feelin' Fowl wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:I don't have time for all that jazz. I only want to watch you do about 15 minutes of work before touching all of your tools, so just show me the framework come together. Carving the head and paint seem pretty strait forward for any ol' Joe.

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FIFY...

While it may be straight forward, I think that watching someone carve the head would be pretty cool. There is a lot of skill that goes into making the head come to life. Paint too...

I wasn't meaning any disrespect by what I said at all if that's how it sounded. If it did I apologize to you Rick. I know for a fact that I cant carve a head or paint as good as Rick and didn't mean for it to come across like that in any way. I'm really interested to see the guts of it and how it goes together.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:14 pm**

I didn't see it as disrespectful. Many decoy makers carve their heads, but not many make a wire and canvas decoy. It's intriguing...

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:15 pm**

That's what I'm saying.

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Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:17 pm**

The Duck Hammer wrote:That's what I'm saying.

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But if he was making high dollar duck calls you would watch from start to finish... :grin:

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:26 pm**

Feelin' Fowl wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:That's what I'm saying.

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But if he was making high dollar duck calls you would watch from start to finish...

Unless he put echo poly inserts in em

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:29 pm**

What if the barrel was one of a kind or limited edition?

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:32 pm**

Feelin' Fowl wrote:What if the barrel was one of a kind or limited edition?

Fuck those guys. I don't care if the barrel cost one million dollars (Dr. Evil's voice) if its got an Echo insert in it it's worth all of 5 bucks. End of discussion.

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Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:33 pm**

Feelin' Fowl wrote:What if the barrel was one of a kind or limited edition?

He already bitched about one. It's on here somewhere. The barrel was laminated yeti dick and unicorn horn laced with pixie dust and saber tooth end pieces but it wasn't good enough because of the poly insert.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:37 pm**

rebelp74 wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:What if the barrel was one of a kind or limited edition?

He already bitched about one. It's on here somewhere. The barrel was laminated yeti dick and unicorn horn laced with pixie dust and saber tooth end pieces but it wasn't good enough because of the poly insert.

See...he has no respect for an Artist like Rick. I would never let him in my shop.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:42 pm**

Feelin' Fowl wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:What if the barrel was one of a kind or limited edition?

He already bitched about one. It's on here somewhere. The barrel was laminated yeti dick and unicorn horn laced with pixie dust and saber tooth end pieces but it wasn't good enough because of the poly insert.

See...he has no respect for an Artist like Rick. I would never let him in my shop.

I'm foe listing your ass over that.

Sorry for trashing up your thread Rick. I have great respect for your work.

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Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:47 pm**

The Duck Hammer wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:What if the barrel was one of a kind or limited edition?

He already bitched about one. It's on here somewhere. The barrel was laminated yeti dick and unicorn horn laced with pixie dust and saber tooth end pieces but it wasn't good enough because of the poly insert.

See...he has no respect for an Artist like Rick. I would never let him in my shop.

I'm foe listing your ass over that.

Sorry for trashing up your thread Rick. I have great respect for your work.

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Sorry Rick...

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:54 pm**

RickC wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:The rcp felt like a real quality decoy that would last a long time. It would be really cool to come see you make a few sometime.

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Thanks DH, making the RCP was as interesting as any due to not having any real specific dimensions to go by but fun none the less.
Dont know about a few as it takes a few days for me to do one with work and all. But if I have everything ready to put together its possible to do one in a day, ready to paint. The heads usually take 4 - 6 hours, getting the canvas on the readied frame 3 - 6 hours as I do them with a knife and rasp.

Rick how much time goes into one of your minis compared to a full sized decoy? Working on that small of a scale seems like it would be more difficult.

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Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:59 pm**

Can I see some pics of these minis?

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:59 pm**

The Duck Hammer wrote:
RickC wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:The rcp felt like a real quality decoy that would last a long time. It would be really cool to come see you make a few sometime.

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Thanks DH, making the RCP was as interesting as any due to not having any real specific dimensions to go by but fun none the less.
Dont know about a few as it takes a few days for me to do one with work and all. But if I have everything ready to put together its possible to do one in a day, ready to paint. The heads usually take 4 - 6 hours, getting the canvas on the readied frame 3 - 6 hours as I do them with a knife and rasp.

Rick how much time goes into one of your minis compared to a full sized decoy? Working on that small of a scale seems like it would be more difficult.

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And I know you're asked all the time, but I can never keep you guys with talent straight...Do you sell any? I would like a mini decoy for the mantle...

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:03 pm**

Here is a pic of his minis

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:08 pm**

I want 1 life size bwt...those are little to begin with

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:11 pm**

Feelin' Fowl wrote:I want 1 life size bwt...those are little to begin with

you should get a mandarin

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:18 pm**

The Duck Hammer wrote:Here is a pic of his minis

That's cool. I like those.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:33 pm**

rebelp74 wrote:
Feelin' Fowl wrote:I want 1 life size bwt...those are little to begin with

you should get a mandarin

That's not even a real duck

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