Loyalty?

[Tomkat]

When I was a little boy we had a bearded cur dog named Tuffy. He was very loyal and protective.

One time I effed up in some kid way and my dad went to spank me (it was normal back then) Tuffy attacked him, and from that day forward, Dad had to secure Tuffy before I got a spanking. Another time in grade school I got into a fight at the bus stop, and Tuffy basiclly ended the fight. After that the other kid wanted to be my friend.

I have choosen that name for your new dog to give you a leg up for a loyal dog. Its a good name.

I'm guessing your nickname at the time of this story was Bitey?

your dog was named Bitey because I think CBR's have an unfair rep, and my guess is you will raise her to not bite anyone.

[Eric Haynes]

When I was a little boy we had a bearded cur dog named Tuffy. He was very loyal and protective.

One time I effed up in some kid way and my dad went to spank me (it was normal back then) Tuffy attacked him, and from that day forward, Dad had to secure Tuffy before I got a spanking. Another time in grade school I got into a fight at the bus stop, and Tuffy basiclly ended the fight. After that the other kid wanted to be my friend.

I have choosen that name for your new dog to give you a leg up for a loyal dog. Its a good name.

I'm guessing your nickname at the time of this story was Bitey?

your dog was named Bitey because I think CBR's have an unfair rep, and my guess is you will raise her to not bite anyone.

I trained my lab to have pitbull-like abilities. Still working on Force to Baby and Random Face Bite. Coming along nicely.

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[DeadEye_Dan]

I just got a new dog too. Pit x CBR cross...isn't he cute??

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[3legged_lab]

The rows of replaceable teeth is a testament to selective breeding.

[Goldfish]

I just got a new dog too. Pit x CBR cross...isn't he cute??

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Oh God, throwing them in a lake to drown had failed horribly!

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[Tomkat]

I just got a new dog too. Pit x CBR cross...isn't he cute??

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Was this Bitey's mother?

[one2many]

The same state that threw me in a jail cell for a perceived game violation. Apparently, their wardens take themselves far more seriously than their police. Shocking.

damn i didnt know this.....freaking POACHER

[one2many]

I just got a new dog too. Pit x CBR cross...isn't he cute??

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sure looks like a 3way cross to me Bull x CBR X White Shark

[jarbo03]

I just got a new dog too. Pit x CBR cross...isn't he cute??

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sure looks like a 3way cross to me Bull x CBR X White Shark

I was thinking pit x cbr x mako.

[one2many]

I just got a new dog too. Pit x CBR cross...isn't he cute??

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sure looks like a 3way cross to me Bull x CBR X White Shark

I was thinking pit x cbr x mako.

he sure looks game and would fit right in with my dog pound

[one2many]

Assa i have a guy renting a house from us, he is about a year behind in rent. i make him do dog chores for me. some of my dogs will listen to him as much as the listen to me.
i let him take my patterdales and jagdterriers. he does a good job handling them. i trust him with some of the dogs, and they trust him. he is the only adult that they listen too other then me...

[assateague]

The same state that threw me in a jail cell for a perceived game violation. Apparently, their wardens take themselves far more seriously than their police. Shocking.

damn i didnt know this.....freaking POACHER

I said "perceived", dammit

[aunt betty]

I have poached. Got caught too! Won't say what I did but it's in the public record. Go look it up. I'm pretty sure I was in the Illinois DNR magazine as well.

It's kind of like getting banned from that other site. Not THAT big a deal.
Misdemeanor.
Shooting up a movie theater or grade school IS a big deal.

[QH's Paw]

I would say training your posse/crew/family will be tougher than training the dog. I pretty much would agree with most of what's been said except Matt's shock therapy statement. I personally don't believe I need to shock my dogs to teach them. People have trained dogs for centuries before the e-collar came into use. I understand the reason professionals use it, because of their time constraints etc. but, for a guy that will spend everyday of the rest of the dog's life with that dog, it isn't necessary and, in many cases is the cause of more problems. I realize there are some people who know how to use them effectively but, I don't feel it is a necessity.
If you spend 5-10 minutes of every day, doing training and reenforcement with your dog, he/she will turn out fine, regardless if the ol' lady can command him.
The funny thing is, all your pup wants to do is make you happy, once he knows he is your dog.

[Tomkat]

I would say training your posse/crew/family will be tougher than training the dog. I pretty much would agree with most of what's been said except Matt's shock therapy statement. I personally don't believe I need to shock my dogs to teach them. People have trained dogs for centuries before the e-collar came into use. I understand the reason professionals use it, because of their time constraints etc. but, for a guy that will spend everyday of the rest of the dog's life with that dog, it isn't necessary and, in many cases is the cause of more problems. I realize there are some people who know how to use them effectively but, I don't feel it is a necessity.
If you spend 5-10 minutes of every day, doing training and reenforcement with your dog, he/she will turn out fine, regardless if the ol' lady can command him.
The funny thing is, all your pup wants to do is make you happy, once he knows he is your dog.

Remember what Ollys Grandpa said? Standing on a soap box makes you a target?

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[Matt Duncan]

I would say training your posse/crew/family will be tougher than training the dog. I pretty much would agree with most of what's been said except Matt's shock therapy statement. I personally don't believe I need to shock my dogs to teach them. People have trained dogs for centuries before the e-collar came into use. I understand the reason professionals use it, because of their time constraints etc. but, for a guy that will spend everyday of the rest of the dog's life with that dog, it isn't necessary and, in many cases is the cause of more problems. I realize there are some people who know how to use them effectively but, I don't feel it is a necessity.
If you spend 5-10 minutes of every day, doing training and reenforcement with your dog, he/she will turn out fine, regardless if the ol' lady can command him.
The funny thing is, all your pup wants to do is make you happy, once he knows he is your dog.

It's not shock therapy. It's collar conditioning. Used correctly the ecollar is A very humane method as opposed to methods that used to be used ie. sling shots, BB guns and whiffle ball bats. You teach nothing with ecollar you reinforce. You should know that being such an accomplished trainer and all...

[Flightstopper]

Q, you ever seen a dog work through CC and FF?

[Tomkat]

You teach nothing with ecollar you reinforce.

Very well put. Some folks think its all about shocking the dog cause you got a button.

Thats not true.

I worked and worked and worked with my dog on 5 basic commands (for starters)

After about 6 thousand times, I knew that she knew what sit, fetch, here, whoa and heel meant. There was no doubt in my mind.

Sometimes, she would just decide that she didnt want to listen up. The invisable hand reminded her that when I give a command, she is supposed to respond. For the record, the first thing I did when I got the e collar was hang on to it and juiced myself.

QH, my dog really does want to please me. She is a natural born retriever. I think the e collar made her 10 X better, at the least, much more focused on the job at hand. When I decided it was time to teach her more commands, the learning curve was much quicker. I seldom nic her now.

Also, the collar can be used for positive re inforcement. When she does something good, I use the tone feature. You can see her tail wag when she hears it. When she is getting praise and attention, she would get a tone. Milk bone for good behavior, tone. I use the tone when she is working on a difficult blind retrieve on a bird she didnt get marked. When she goes in the right direction, tone. I know it works because you can see her speed up when I apply the tone.

She was always intended to be a hunting dog. My methods might make a HT guy cringe, but I dont care. She hunts well enough to suite me.

[QH's Paw]

I would say training your posse/crew/family will be tougher than training the dog. I pretty much would agree with most of what's been said except Matt's shock therapy statement. I personally don't believe I need to shock my dogs to teach them. People have trained dogs for centuries before the e-collar came into use. I understand the reason professionals use it, because of their time constraints etc. but, for a guy that will spend everyday of the rest of the dog's life with that dog, it isn't necessary and, in many cases is the cause of more problems. I realize there are some people who know how to use them effectively but, I don't feel it is a necessity.
If you spend 5-10 minutes of every day, doing training and reenforcement with your dog, he/she will turn out fine, regardless if the ol' lady can command him.
The funny thing is, all your pup wants to do is make you happy, once he knows he is your dog.

It's not shock therapy. It's collar conditioning. Used correctly the ecollar is A very humane method as opposed to methods that used to be used ie. sling shots, BB guns and whiffle ball bats. You teach nothing with ecollar you reinforce. You should know that being such an accomplished trainer and all...

I completely understand the intended use of the ecollar, in the right hands. There is nothing to keep untrained users or just plain jackwagons from misusing the collar. You choose to use the collar, I do not. When I discipline my dog he knows it is me.
The collar does not apply pressure, it puts an electrical current through the dog. The dog is the pathway for the current. Call it what you want to, to make it sound better but, it is an electrical shock applied to a dog.
Matt, I also realize you have plenty of ribbons and titles, good for you. It shows you're dedicated to that aspect of the dog world. I'm not trying to take anything away from your accomplishments. I only train to hunt. I'm not after any titles or to breed and train for a living. If I were, I might have chosen a different road but, I didn't.
If people are okay with shocking their dog, why don't they call it what it is? Why do you have to call it pressure, as if you are pushing on your dog not shocking him/her?
I have plenty of friends who use collars. I don't hold it against them but, I don't keep quiet when they say they are applying pressure with a collar either.

[Tomkat]

QH, are you aware of anyone else using the tone for positive reinforcement? Is that a TomKat Pioneering move?

[QH's Paw]

QH, are you aware of anyone else using the tone for positive reinforcement? Is that a TomKat Pioneering move?

I can't say I remember anyone saying it that way. I know people that use the tone as specific command like "look" or "sit" when the dog is in the water. Kinda like tooting short on the whistle every time the dog sits, until the dog is conditioned to sit from the short whistle when he hears it.

[Willie]

I just got a new dog too. Pit x CBR cross...isn't he cute??

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sure looks like a 3way cross to me Bull x CBR X White Shark

I was thinking pit x cbr x mako.

Thought the same thing!