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Postby Flightstopper » Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:59 am

anybody know a good way to get fat on a pup? He's only one so I know he has his filling out to do yet but he can't even take our "cold" down here as he stands now.
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby jarbo03 » Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:29 am

Use a vest and be smart through this season. Coat should be more developed by next season. Had the sane thing with Taz, he has no problems now and he is super skinny. Could add an egg or bacon grease to meals also.

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Flightstopper » Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:38 am

Yesterday with 35'ish air temps and a vest I only kept him out for about 30 minutes before he went back to the truck. Was not going to push it any time especially where we were at. He was shivering way too much
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby jarbo03 » Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:23 pm

Bring him hunting here for a few days, when he goes back he will think it's warm!:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Flightstopper » Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:29 pm

Ill pm you my info to book my flight :biggrin:
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Goldfish » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:50 am

But how are you going to keep flighstopper warm?
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Olly » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:57 am

I'll start adding an egg to every other days meals about a month before the season. Bacon grease seems to make Moose vomit so we didn't try that again. I've never had a problem will keeping my dog warm with a vest and he's hunted for hours in the mid teens to twenties.

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Flightstopper » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:04 am

I'm sure it's a combination of him being young and a very lean 50lbs that's hurting us right now. You use raw egg Olly?
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Olly » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:13 am

Yea just crack it right over his bowl of feed. I started his first year going out and used small amounts of egg at first but now just a whole raw egg.

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby jarbo03 » Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:37 pm

Goldfish wrote:But how are you going to keep flighstopper warm?

Wrap him in a blanket and give him a binky!

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Goldfish » Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:37 pm

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Goldfish wrote:But how are you going to keep flighstopper warm?

Wrap him in a blanket and give him a binky!

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Suppose you could get him a snuggie:
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Matt Duncan » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:06 pm

I don't like to add unessesary bad weight to them by putting extra weight on it just makes him work harder to carry around that extra baggage.. Just part of having a young lean dog. I try to keep em in good shape and will supplement fish oil to help their coat. I've got a year old male thats the same way. He stays lean and it's easy to freeze him out so he just takes a little more upkeep in the field for now. I keep him off the ground and out of the wind as much as I can, in a vest that fits correctly, wipe him down everytime he gets out of the water ( I use the cheapo shamwow things from walmart, they're a few bucks a piece and don't take up much room in a blind bag), also when my sissy chessie male gets chilled I'll toss him a couple fun bumpers on land to warm him up. He's like a high maintenance woman compared to my female that's as rugged as it gets. He'll finish filling out by next season and will handle the cold a lot better. For now I may need to look into one of those snuggies for my young guy too...
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Matt Duncan » Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:19 pm

I know people have been feeding their dogs raw eggs for years to help their skin and coats but it's actually doing the exact opposite.. Raw eggs contain an enzyme called avidin, which decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin). This can lead to skin and hair coat problems. Raw eggs may also contain Salmonella. Just a quality food is plenty for most dogs and if you are needing to help the skin and coat supplementing fish oil or salmon oil will be plenty most of the time. It's the same stuff people take over the counter. About $8 will give you enough to last for months.

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Flightstopper » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:59 pm

Fish oil in the gel pills or fish oil in a jug, if they even sell that?
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby 3legged_lab » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:23 pm

I took my 12 year old black lab female to the vet not long ago to get her rabies shot. The old woman at the front counter looks my dog up in the computer then looks at the dog and says ''she can't be 12 years old, what kind of food do you feed her? ''. I said Wal-Mart brand, she gave me a dirty look. Then I said, but sometimes I put a little bacon grease on it for her. I got an even dirtier look.

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Olly » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:26 pm

3legged_lab wrote:I took my 12 year old black lab female to the vet not long ago to get her rabies shot. The old woman at the front counter looks my dog up in the computer then looks at the dog and says ''she can't be 12 years old, what kind of food do you feed her? ''. I said Wal-Mart brand, she gave me a dirty look. Then I said, but sometimes I put a little bacon grease on it for her. I got an even dirtier look.

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This past summer I was at a BBQ and everyone there was talking about the dog food they buy and the money the spend on their dogs and when I mentioned I feed mine food from Wal-mart. They all acted like I was trying to kill him then flipped out when I mentioned I gave him his shots myself.

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Eric Haynes » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:35 pm

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3legged_lab wrote:I took my 12 year old black lab female to the vet not long ago to get her rabies shot. The old woman at the front counter looks my dog up in the computer then looks at the dog and says ''she can't be 12 years old, what kind of food do you feed her? ''. I said Wal-Mart brand, she gave me a dirty look. Then I said, but sometimes I put a little bacon grease on it for her. I got an even dirtier look.

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This past summer I was at a BBQ and everyone there was talking about the dog food they buy and the money the spend on their dogs and when I mentioned I feed mine food from Wal-mart. They all acted like I was trying to kill him then flipped out when I mentioned I gave him his shots myself.

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Depends what food from Walmart you feed. Purina One isnt a bad food and it is sold there. I feed PPP and won't switch to anything else ever again. Perfect coats, tons of energy, very flexible, and seemingly endless stamina. The only downside is the cost, which is about $105 per month, but it's worth it to me.
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby assateague » Thu Dec 27, 2012 10:15 pm

Matt Duncan wrote:I know people have been feeding their dogs raw eggs for years to help their skin and coats but it's actually doing the exact opposite.. Raw eggs contain an enzyme called avidin, which decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin). This can lead to skin and hair coat problems. Raw eggs may also contain Salmonella. Just a quality food is plenty for most dogs and if you are needing to help the skin and coat supplementing fish oil or salmon oil will be plenty most of the time. It's the same stuff people take over the counter. About $8 will give you enough to last for months.

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I have a hard time worrying about my dog getting salmonella from a raw egg. Considering dogs spend a large portion of their time eating dog shit, horse shit, cat shit, and the remains of any dead animal they can find, no matter how old. :lol:
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby 3legged_lab » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:23 pm

No shit! These are all the same people that let their dogs lick them in the face.

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Goldfish » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:15 am

3legged_lab wrote:No shit! These are all the same people that let their dogs lick them in the face.

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You aren't supposed to do that? And when she gets into animal shit, I only let her lick mama's face (if she's been on my case :D )

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Flightstopper » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:26 am

jarbo03 wrote:
Goldfish wrote:But how are you going to keep flighstopper warm?

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Are they both heated?
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Matt Duncan » Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:54 pm

Flightstopper wrote:Fish oil in the gel pills or fish oil in a jug, if they even sell that?


They do sell a liquid but I just use the gel caps. 100 pills to a bottle and you can buy them at walmart.
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Matt Duncan » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:05 pm

assateague wrote:
Matt Duncan wrote:I know people have been feeding their dogs raw eggs for years to help their skin and coats but it's actually doing the exact opposite.. Raw eggs contain an enzyme called avidin, which decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin). This can lead to skin and hair coat problems. Raw eggs may also contain Salmonella. Just a quality food is plenty for most dogs and if you are needing to help the skin and coat supplementing fish oil or salmon oil will be plenty most of the time. It's the same stuff people take over the counter. About $8 will give you enough to last for months.

List of toxic foods for dogs..
http://www.risingwoods.org/OURFAMILY/THEDOGS/knowntoxicfoodsfordogs.htm



I have a hard time worrying about my dog getting salmonella from a raw egg. Considering dogs spend a large portion of their time eating dog ****, horse ****, cat ****, and the remains of any dead animal they can find, no matter how old. :lol:



True, I know my dogs have eaten some pretty groady stuff but thats not part of the regular diet. I'm not really concerned about salmonella from the raw eggs I'm more concerned about the dog not being able to absorb what it should as far as the B vitamins it needs. This is just from some studies that I have read about feeding the raw eggs as part of the regular diet. I dont want to have to worry about it so I use the fish oil pills. Cheaper, easy and I can never manage to crack and egg open without getting shell in it anyway :D Supposedly smoking will give you cancer and drinking will kill your liver but I'm still here... So who really knows
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby assateague » Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:14 pm

I was just giving you a hard time, brother. I had a vet years ago tell me the same thing about eggs (that they wouldn't help the coat).
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby aunt betty » Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:38 am

You don't want to fatten a puppy. Their bones are still growing.
Don't feed a puppy a high-protein diet. Their bones can't handle a lot of muscle and extra weight.
I suppose an egg ain't gunna hurt but do not use hi-pro on puppies.
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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby Eric Haynes » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:26 pm

aunt betty wrote:You don't want to fatten a puppy. Their bones are still growing.
Don't feed a puppy a high-protein diet. Their bones can't handle a lot of muscle and extra weight.
I suppose an egg ain't gunna hurt but do not use hi-pro on puppies.

Any good puppy food will have around 25% protein. Just keep the pup active and feed a good food and it will have a great coat and body.

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Re: Put fat on pup

Postby one2many » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:15 am

you didnt say what breed of dog, but i think force fetch will work just fine :mrgreen:

i have a couple greyhounds that dont handle the cold very well. my best squirrel dog a prima donna treeing feist dont like when the temps get bellow 50 :o the little asshole
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