Re: About a week into force fetch
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:00 pmProbably talked about it Jarbo, just revisiting it.
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About a week into force fetch
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:00 pmRe: About a week into force fetch
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:47 pmExcuse my ignorance, but what is CC?
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:53 pmCollar Condition/-ing, -ed
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:03 pmGot it.
Ki's had the e-collar on twice. Once at a snake aversion clinic, and once during his first few days of upland hunting where we were kicking deer out of the ditches like rabbits and he couldn't help but run them. He ran two with the collar on and hasn't flinched at one since. I may have to do the same thing for nutria, unless someone can enlighten me to a different path.
Also, I didn't mean to pick open any old scabs with this thread, but I do appreciate the exchange of different ideas. Everyone I talk to says of course you have to FF a dog to have a reliable retriever, and they typically snicker and say "well you can borrow mine when you're ready" when I tell them I'm staying off the e-collar. Of course their dogs don't handle for shit without the collar on, either.
Ki's had the e-collar on twice. Once at a snake aversion clinic, and once during his first few days of upland hunting where we were kicking deer out of the ditches like rabbits and he couldn't help but run them. He ran two with the collar on and hasn't flinched at one since. I may have to do the same thing for nutria, unless someone can enlighten me to a different path.
Also, I didn't mean to pick open any old scabs with this thread, but I do appreciate the exchange of different ideas. Everyone I talk to says of course you have to FF a dog to have a reliable retriever, and they typically snicker and say "well you can borrow mine when you're ready" when I tell them I'm staying off the e-collar. Of course their dogs don't handle for shit without the collar on, either.
Re: About a week into force fetch
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 3:20 pmThere are many ways to reach a desired goal. If yoy are following a program, stay with ittil the end. Don't get ahead of yourself and only proceed when each step is finished. Time and patience are key.
Re: About a week into force fetch
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:24 pmjarbo03 wrote:There are many ways to reach a desired goal. If yoy are following a program, stay with ittil the end. Don't get ahead of yourself and only proceed when each step is finished. Time and patience are key.
Jarbo is right. I saw a lot of pro trainers this weekend at Pheasant Fest. Many use similar programs, but the one constant message was to finish each step completely, and don't skip steps no matter what program you're using.
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:24 ambanknote wrote:I'm staying off the e-collar. Of course their dogs don't handle for shit without the collar on, either.
There's more truth in this statement than some would care to admit.
Re: About a week into force fetch
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:35 pmOlly wrote:one2many wrote:what???? i dont care who FFs or CCs but to say that is just fucking stupid
You don't agree that FFing a dog improves the dog? If not why did you FF your dog?
I've met lots of guys that feel they don't need to FF a dog because it goes and get's the duck most of the time. I was simply saying that because of whatever reason they aren't taking that important step in training it's causing them to miss out on how much better their dog could be (at retrieving).
Don't get so butt hurt over something so small.
not butt hurt Boss, i have FF and CC when needed. i have had more that didnt need it.
you guys are training a dog to go pick something up for you and bring it back. i will not feed a dog that will not do what its supposed to do. way more time goes into my working dogs then my labs. never had to FF a working dog in m life
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:52 pmone2many wrote: i will not feed a dog that will not do what its supposed to do
Bullshit, first off who are you to say what a dog is supposed to do? And if for some reason you think you are the god of dog destiny, should I ever meet you, and you truly are a piece of shit, I'll rip off your head and shit down your throat. Real talk
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:53 pm
Herewego Re: About a week into force fetch
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:56 pmAw jeez.
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:57 pmWHAT ARE WE YELLING ABOUT?
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:59 pmBootlipkiller wrote:WHAT ARE WE YELLING ABOUT?
Shut the fuck up or Jehler is gonna shit on you too
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:00 pmbanknote wrote:Aw jeez.
Lots of butter and salt
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:07 pmjehler wrote:one2many wrote: i will not feed a dog that will not do what its supposed to do
Bullshit, first off who are you to say what a dog is supposed to do? And if for some reason you think you are the god of dog destiny, should I ever meet you, and you truly are a piece of shit, I'll rip off your head and shit down your throat. Real talk
Yeah, that's cold.
I just shoot 'em.
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:16 pmWho is holding the money on this match and what are the odds?
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:28 pmAnybody shit on anybody yet?
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:30 pmassateague wrote:Anybody shit on anybody yet?
Think they were both banned but not sure
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:42 pmi got two shits, one for each of youDeadEye_Dan wrote:jehler wrote:one2many wrote: i will not feed a dog that will not do what its supposed to do
Bullshit, first off who are you to say what a dog is supposed to do? And if for some reason you think you are the god of dog destiny, should I ever meet you, and you truly are a piece of shit, I'll rip off your head and shit down your throat. Real talk
Yeah, that's cold.
I just shoot 'em.
Re: About a week into force fetch
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:48 pmIt's the drunk piano player!!
Re: About a week into force fetch
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:49 pmSo I grabbed the piano player and I punched him in the face.
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:49 pmAKPirate wrote:Who is holding the money on this match and what are the odds?
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:03 pmjehler wrote:one2many wrote: i will not feed a dog that will not do what its supposed to do
Bullshit, first off who are you to say what a dog is supposed to do? And if for some reason you think you are the god of dog destiny, should I ever meet you, and you truly are a piece of shit, I'll rip off your head and shit down your throat. Real talk
Ive got 2 dogs now welching off of the tri-care disability program.
Two cold meals, sleep inside and full medical.
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:10 pmyou're no daisyassateague wrote:So I grabbed the piano player and I punched him in the face.
Re: About a week into force fetch
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:27 pmAnd you're no Beastie Boys fan.
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:31 pmI just shit
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:31 pmOn my neighbors dog
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:35 pmOn a scale of 1-10, how solid was the shit?
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:36 pm1 being diarrhea and 10 being solid.
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:37 pm3geese4me wrote:On a scale of 1-10, how solid was the shit?
The dog gave it about a number 2