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im thinkin about gettin another dog if i can talk the wife into it i hunt alot of big open water about 3 to 4 feet deep and also some marsh and really shallow ponds i was thinking about getting either a chesapeake male or a male chocholate lab ive had a male chocholate male when i was a kid and he was a stubborn SOB any other dogs that would be good dogs also have a really small kid and a baby coming so kinda need somthin thats good with small kids

Do it! However I suggest a female Lab.

im worried about it getting knocked up and i really dont wanna fix a dog. bitches can be whores

and i have a big male american bull dog he is my watch dog and even tho they would be pretty pups i dodnt want that many dogs

Females just want to make you happy! They are not hard headed like a male.




I am talking about labs just so we're clear.

Maybe its just my dog, but that's one choc male that's not great with kids. Tug is actually pretty much a dickhead. He looks at kids with a look of disgust, like they are carrying a disease.

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capt1972 wrote:Females just want to make you happy! They are not hard headed like a male.




I am talking about labs just so we're clear.

would keeping them inside for a house dog impair their hunting ability any a female would be alot better for inside

My dogs have been inside/outside and I don't think it affects their hunting at all.

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what is the differnce between the chesapeake and a lab temperment and training wise

3legged_lab wrote:Maybe its just my dog, but that's one choc male that's not great with kids. Tug is actually pretty much a dickhead. He looks at kids with a look of disgust, like they are carrying a disease.

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Charlie is a dickhead when it comes to kids also. He has never bit anyone or acted like he wants to, but you can sit it in his eyes when kids are over him. Of course this doesnt apply to my kid, but hes a little over protective of the kid and the new pup.

Chessies are a one person dog and tend to be very protective. Labs are loyal and love everyone.

may have to look for a female chocholate

don't get me wrong, they are both great dogs. But, Labs. Are. Awesome!

yeah ive had quite a few labs when i was a kid but my dad would only keep it for a year or so and trade it for sumthin else and i had on about a year ago that was an awsome dog and someone poisoned it

capt1972 wrote:Chessies are a one person dog and tend to be very protective. Labs are loyal and love everyone.

Ya, if you're not lookin' my lab will try to "love" on ya.

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capt1972 wrote:Chessies are a one person dog and tend to be very protective. Labs are loyal and love everyone.

Not sure if this was sarcastic or not, but blanket assumptions will get you into trouble. All dogs are not the same, just like all labs aren't. Do your homework and look at the parents to see what you want.

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capt1972 wrote:Chessies are a one person dog and tend to be very protective. Labs are loyal and love everyone.

Not sure if this was sarcastic or not, but blanket assumptions will get you into trouble. All dogs are not the same, just like all labs aren't. Do your homework and look at the parents to see what you want.

My chessie, young yet, loves everyone but does tend to listen to more. If I was going to get another chessie I might get a female, my male is a little hard headed sometimes, or deaf not sure;) temper and attitude depends on the breeder and bloodlines.

thanks for the input guys

my main conseren was the long deep water retrieves but it seems like they both may suit my needs maybe if i can fins a lab chessie mix i can get the best of both worlds

Ajverret wrote:thanks for the input guys

my main conseren was the long deep water retrieves but it seems like they both may suit my needs maybe if i can fins a lab chessie mix i can get the best of both worlds

Wouldn't recommend getting any mix. No heath clearances and its not like they split attributes 50/50. I like pretty far north and my lab swims in the river when we are ice fishing. If you live in LA I wouldnt be worrying if a lab can handle your vacation winters:grin:

Cool deal im looking around for a chocholate female kinda hoping i can find a freebie i dont need papers dogs cant read anyways

does anyone have any favorites for training books and such. I downloaded a sample of tom dokkens retriever traning if anyone has a good one that is easy to, beacause i really have no clue were to start but would like to train it myself rather than spending a bunch of money to get it trained and would like to loan it out would be greatly appriciated

Ajverret wrote:does anyone have any favorites for training books and such. I downloaded a sample of tom dokkens retriever traning if anyone has a good one that is easy to, beacause i really have no clue were to start but would like to train it myself rather than spending a bunch of money to get it trained and would like to loan it out would be greatly appriciated

I have smart works, retriever fever, dokkens, and total retriever. Id go with smart works as it seems to be the most in depth and very detailed

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Ajverret wrote:does anyone have any favorites for training books and such. I downloaded a sample of tom dokkens retriever traning if anyone has a good one that is easy to, beacause i really have no clue were to start but would like to train it myself rather than spending a bunch of money to get it trained and would like to loan it out would be greatly appriciated

I have smart works, retriever fever, dokkens, and total retriever. Id go with smart works as it seems to be the most in depth and very detailed

thanks will look into them

I have the Fowl Dawg videos by Rick Stawski. Seem pretty good

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ive been reading a book i downloaded on i books and its pretty good its the tom dokkens retriever training seems like its worded for them dummy dog trainer

I've heard that the Water Dog and Gun Dog books by Richard Wolters are decent too.


Just like breeds of dogs though, you will get every sort of opinion on training methods and material.

Ajverret wrote:ive been reading a book i downloaded on i books and its pretty good its the tom dokkens retriever training seems like its worded for them dummy dog trainer

Ive read dokken's material. Its decent but it skips a lot and it seems like they rush the puppy stage.

Don't put so much thought into female vs male or chessie vs lab. Look at the two dogs being bred and make you decision that is what determines what you get. For training programs fowl dogs is pretty straight forward and easy to follow. I found smartworks pretty dry.

I followed water dog and it worked out great. A lot of common sense is required. I've also got a male, I'm thinking about getting a female next.

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Olly wrote:I followed water dog and it worked out great. A lot of common sense is required. I've also got a male, I'm thinking about getting a female next.

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I have both a male and a female, I will take another female anyday over a male again. First female I've ever owned and she has been amazing.