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I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:13 pm
by Redbeard
...a female chessie. I've never really owned a female. What can I expect during her heat cycles? How many of y'all have experience with females

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:16 pm
by Eric Haynes
Redbeard wrote:...a female chessie. I've never really owned a female. What can I expect during her heat cycles? How many of y'all have experience with females

Just got a female a few months ago. I'LL never own a male again. I think the bigger question is why he is giving it away.

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Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:16 pm
by Flightstopper
It's a major pain in the ass for an inside dog unless she's fixed. I've never hunted one though.

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:20 pm
by Redbeard
Flightstopper wrote:It's a major pain in the ass for an inside dog unless she's fixed. I've never hunted one though.

during the heat?

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:22 pm
by Westie25
Redbeard wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:It's a major pain in the ass for an inside dog unless she's fixed. I've never hunted one though.

during the heat?

In my experience, which is little, it's the males that go crazy when a female is in heat. No real change in the females.

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:25 pm
by Redbeard
Eric Haynes wrote:
Redbeard wrote:...a female chessie. I've never really owned a female. What can I expect during her heat cycles? How many of y'all have experience with females

Just got a female a few months ago. I'LL never own a male again. I think the bigger question is why he is giving it away.

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long story. He has a very fine male from a very reputable breeder. He bought this one which isn't born yet, to start a good line here in Humboldt. However he breeds terriers also and decided he doesn't have the room for another dog. Asked me if I'd take her if he could keep the breeding rights. The breeding rights thing doesn't bother me. And we're not doing it for profit. Won't breed her often, and would mostly do it for local hunters and hunting friends. May sound alittle ridiculous but he does this with his terriers and is very well known amongst deer hunters for em. Has created a very nice line of deer dogs here

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:39 pm
by Flightstopper
Redbeard wrote:
Flightstopper wrote:It's a major pain in the ass for an inside dog unless she's fixed. I've never hunted one though.

during the heat?


Yes, sorry bout that

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:04 pm
by Eric Haynes
Redbeard wrote:
Eric Haynes wrote:
Redbeard wrote:...a female chessie. I've never really owned a female. What can I expect during her heat cycles? How many of y'all have experience with females

Just got a female a few months ago. I'LL never own a male again. I think the bigger question is why he is giving it away.

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long story. He has a very fine male from a very reputable breeder. He bought this one which isn't born yet, to start a good line here in Humboldt. However he breeds terriers also and decided he doesn't have the room for another dog. Asked me if I'd take her if he could keep the breeding rights. The breeding rights thing doesn't bother me. And we're not doing it for profit. Won't breed her often, and would mostly do it for local hunters and hunting friends. May sound alittle ridiculous but he does this with his terriers and is very well known amongst deer hunters for em. Has created a very nice line of deer dogs here

If he is going to help with the training, id do it if you are comfortable with it.

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Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:05 pm
by Matt Duncan
Redbeard wrote:
Eric Haynes wrote:
Redbeard wrote:...a female chessie. I've never really owned a female. What can I expect during her heat cycles? How many of y'all have experience with females

Just got a female a few months ago. I'LL never own a male again. I think the bigger question is why he is giving it away.

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long story. He has a very fine male from a very reputable breeder. He bought this one which isn't born yet, to start a good line here in Humboldt. However he breeds terriers also and decided he doesn't have the room for another dog. Asked me if I'd take her if he could keep the breeding rights. The breeding rights thing doesn't bother me. And we're not doing it for profit. Won't breed her often, and would mostly do it for local hunters and hunting friends. May sound alittle ridiculous but he does this with his terriers and is very well known amongst deer hunters for em. Has created a very nice line of deer dogs here


Just sounds shady to me... Whats the info on this pup? Who's it out of? If he doesn't have room for another dog he sure doesn't have room to be dealing with a litter of puppies! What if the dog end's up being a real bootlicker? He still gonna breed it? I'd stay away from it. As far as females go I feel that they tend to be a little easier to train as they tend to mature a bit earlier and are more eager to please. That's just from my experience. Dogs are individuals so where when my female is in season there isn't much difference in her personality so we just keep on training, and I've seen some that are like most women, can't function, think and become very disinterested in anything that you want from them. You just get what you get and learn to work with the individual dog. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:08 pm
by 3geese4me
Eric Haynes wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
Eric Haynes wrote:
Redbeard wrote:...a female chessie. I've never really owned a female. What can I expect during her heat cycles? How many of y'all have experience with females

Just got a female a few months ago. I'LL never own a male again. I think the bigger question is why he is giving it away.

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long story. He has a very fine male from a very reputable breeder. He bought this one which isn't born yet, to start a good line here in Humboldt. However he breeds terriers also and decided he doesn't have the room for another dog. Asked me if I'd take her if he could keep the breeding rights. The breeding rights thing doesn't bother me. And we're not doing it for profit. Won't breed her often, and would mostly do it for local hunters and hunting friends. May sound alittle ridiculous but he does this with his terriers and is very well known amongst deer hunters for em. Has created a very nice line of deer dogs here

If he is going to help with the training, id do it if you are comfortable with it.

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I agree.

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:08 pm
by NuffDaddy
Just get her fixed unless you ever plan on breeding her. Saves on having a whoopsie with a male dog if she ever gets loose.


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Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:12 pm
by Eric Haynes
NuffDaddy wrote:Just get her fixed unless you ever plan on breeding her. Saves on having a whoopsie with a male dog if she ever gets loose.


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Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:19 pm
by NuffDaddy
Eric Haynes wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:Just get her fixed unless you ever plan on breeding her. Saves on having a whoopsie with a male dog if she ever gets loose.


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Read Reds post

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got it. Don't know then. Have always had my dogs fixed as pups.


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Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:24 pm
by rebelp74
I have a female black lab. She's a great dog. Before getting her fixed, she was topped by another dog. She never got pregnant but thought she was. She would get some of the training bumpers and her dog toys and put them under her like nursing pups. It was funny but really weird.

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:33 pm
by Matt Duncan
rebelp74 wrote:I have a female black lab. She's a great dog. Before getting her fixed, she was topped by another dog. She never got pregnant but thought she was. She would get some of the training bumpers and her dog toys and put them under her like nursing pups. It was funny but really weird.


They all go through some kind of false pregnancy after a cycle. My current one just gets really affectionate like she's knocked up and the previous female would gather toys everytime and bag up with milk every few cycles or so. I've also heard of a few people that end up going for an xray thinking that their dog is carrying a small litter. Kinda get nervous when you see milk and then start wondering just how well you kept them locked up..

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:48 pm
by assateague
They will bleed a little. The Dingo left several spots in the house, but nothing major.

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:50 pm
by Matt Duncan
Oh and don't worry about her coming in heat if you don't run tests they only come in the week you have a hunt test.. :D

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:02 pm
by Redbeard
Matt Duncan wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
Eric Haynes wrote:
Redbeard wrote:...a female chessie. I've never really owned a female. What can I expect during her heat cycles? How many of y'all have experience with females

Just got a female a few months ago. I'LL never own a male again. I think the bigger question is why he is giving it away.

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long story. He has a very fine male from a very reputable breeder. He bought this one which isn't born yet, to start a good line here in Humboldt. However he breeds terriers also and decided he doesn't have the room for another dog. Asked me if I'd take her if he could keep the breeding rights. The breeding rights thing doesn't bother me. And we're not doing it for profit. Won't breed her often, and would mostly do it for local hunters and hunting friends. May sound alittle ridiculous but he does this with his terriers and is very well known amongst deer hunters for em. Has created a very nice line of deer dogs here


Just sounds shady to me... Whats the info on this pup? Who's it out of? If he doesn't have room for another dog he sure doesn't have room to be dealing with a litter of puppies! What if the dog end's up being a real bootlicker? He still gonna breed it? I'd stay away from it. As far as females go I feel that they tend to be a little easier to train as they tend to mature a bit earlier and are more eager to please. That's just from my experience. Dogs are individuals so where when my female is in season there isn't much difference in her personality so we just keep on training, and I've seen some that are like most women, can't function, think and become very disinterested in anything that you want from them. You just get what you get and learn to work with the individual dog. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Matt I totally get what you're saying and respect your opinion. And I knew my post would generate some hesitant responses. I'll explain alittle clearer. My friend is a very good friend and very well respected rat terrier/ mountain feist breeder and dog owner. He's gonna send me all the breeder's info tomorrow. I know he's been researching chessie breeders for over a year now. And he's very happy and excited about this breeder. But you're right. And I'll wait and see what he has for me. I don't intend on jumping into a dog situation like this blind. Absolutely not. I'll do my own research after he sends me the info.

As far as the dog goes, my buddy stated if the dog is a dud or doesn't hunt or is a bootlicker, he said he'd take it back as a family pet. And he's good for his word. I trust him fully.

As for breeding, if it were a dud, we clearly wouldn't breed it. He has the room to breed, just has his terriers occupying most of his kennels. We vaguely discusses doing this in the past anyhow. And if bred, it would be done here

We also wouldn't consistently breed her litter after litter. Not our intent.

Hope that cleared up some questions. I know it sounded like I was jumping on a free dog, which I'd never do

Let me know of any other concerns ya got that I may not be thinking of

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:30 pm
by Eric Haynes
Redbeard wrote:
Matt Duncan wrote:
Redbeard wrote:
Eric Haynes wrote:
Redbeard wrote:...a female chessie. I've never really owned a female. What can I expect during her heat cycles? How many of y'all have experience with females

Just got a female a few months ago. I'LL never own a male again. I think the bigger question is why he is giving it away.

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long story. He has a very fine male from a very reputable breeder. He bought this one which isn't born yet, to start a good line here in Humboldt. However he breeds terriers also and decided he doesn't have the room for another dog. Asked me if I'd take her if he could keep the breeding rights. The breeding rights thing doesn't bother me. And we're not doing it for profit. Won't breed her often, and would mostly do it for local hunters and hunting friends. May sound alittle ridiculous but he does this with his terriers and is very well known amongst deer hunters for em. Has created a very nice line of deer dogs here


Just sounds shady to me... Whats the info on this pup? Who's it out of? If he doesn't have room for another dog he sure doesn't have room to be dealing with a litter of puppies! What if the dog end's up being a real bootlicker? He still gonna breed it? I'd stay away from it. As far as females go I feel that they tend to be a little easier to train as they tend to mature a bit earlier and are more eager to please. That's just from my experience. Dogs are individuals so where when my female is in season there isn't much difference in her personality so we just keep on training, and I've seen some that are like most women, can't function, think and become very disinterested in anything that you want from them. You just get what you get and learn to work with the individual dog. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Matt I totally get what you're saying and respect your opinion. And I knew my post would generate some hesitant responses. I'll explain alittle clearer. My friend is a very good friend and very well respected rat terrier/ mountain feist breeder and dog owner. He's gonna send me all the breeder's info tomorrow. I know he's been researching chessie breeders for over a year now. And he's very happy and excited about this breeder. But you're right. And I'll wait and see what he has for me. I don't intend on jumping into a dog situation like this blind. Absolutely not. I'll do my own research after he sends me the info.

As far as the dog goes, my buddy stated if the dog is a dud or doesn't hunt or is a bootlicker, he said he'd take it back as a family pet. And he's good for his word. I trust him fully.

As for breeding, if it were a dud, we clearly wouldn't breed it. He has the room to breed, just has his terriers occupying most of his kennels. We vaguely discusses doing this in the past anyhow. And if bred, it would be done here

We also wouldn't consistently breed her litter after litter. Not our intent.

Hope that cleared up some questions. I know it sounded like I was jumping on a free dog, which I'd never do

Let me know of any other concerns ya got that I may not be thinking of

I think you are safe red. Keep to breeding her only a few times, and get her tested. As long as he foots the bill, i still say go for it.

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Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:38 pm
by DeadEye_Dan
WWCDD??

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:42 pm
by Flightstopper
DeadEye_Dan wrote:WWCDD??


Bahahaha!!

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:42 pm
by Eric Haynes
DeadEye_Dan wrote:WWCDD??

Lol, what would copterdoc do

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Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:06 pm
by capt1972
Eric Haynes wrote:
DeadEye_Dan wrote:WWCDD??

Lol, what would copterdoc do

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What would Charlie Daniels Do!?

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:40 pm
by 3legged_lab
capt1972 wrote:
Eric Haynes wrote:
DeadEye_Dan wrote:WWCDD??

Lol, what would copterdoc do

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What would Charlie Daniels Do!?

Dammit! Exactly what I was gonna say.

Red, like others said, in my experience the females seem a little less hard headed and faster learners.

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Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:24 am
by 3legged_lab
Matt Duncan wrote:
rebelp74 wrote:I have a female black lab. She's a great dog. Before getting her fixed, she was topped by another dog. She never got pregnant but thought she was. She would get some of the training bumpers and her dog toys and put them under her like nursing pups. It was funny but really weird.


They all go through some kind of false pregnancy after a cycle. My current one just gets really affectionate like she's knocked up and the previous female would gather toys everytime and bag up with milk every few cycles or so. I've also heard of a few people that end up going for an xray thinking that their dog is carrying a small litter. Kinda get nervous when you see milk and then start wondering just how well you kept them locked up..

I hate it when a bitch has a false positive.

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Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:30 am
by NuffDaddy
3legged_lab wrote:Red, like others said, in my experience the females seem a little less hard headed and faster learners.

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This^^ Had a male setter before this one and he was bull headed and stubborn. The female I got 3 years ago is a lot more calm but still has a lot of energy and drive when it comes to work. Trained her in a summer because all she wanted to do was please and never and to force anything one her.



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Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:55 am
by Matt Duncan
Redbeard- Not at all trying to be negative it's just the majority of the deals I've seen like this end up going south for one party or the other and most were originally good friends in the beginning as well. Forgive me but I am a little passionate when it comes to breeding and chessies. I see new backyard breedings constantly which in the long run will be the demise of the Chesapeake which for now is still a very primative and nostalgic breed to hunt and compete with..

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:27 pm
by Redbeard
Matt Duncan wrote:Redbeard- Not at all trying to be negative it's just the majority of the deals I've seen like this end up going south for one party or the other and most were originally good friends in the beginning as well. Forgive me but I am a little passionate when it comes to breeding and chessies. I see new backyard breedings constantly which in the long run will be the demise of the Chesapeake which for now is still a very primative and nostalgic breed to hunt and compete with..

I hear exactly what you're saying and that is not what I want. That's why I'm gonna give this some serious thought

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:59 pm
by jehler
DeadEye_Dan wrote:WWCDD??

What would captain duckhead do?

Re: I've been offered...

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 12:45 pm
by Redbeard
Well first of all I've spoken with and checked into the breeder, references and all. I'm excited bout them. Second I misunderstood my buddy's intentions. He has no plans to regularly breed the dog. Which i'm thrilled with. He only wants to breed her with his stud once in about 3-4 years when the time comes to replace his boy. The breeders he got his boy from have since retired.