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Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:42 pm
by FlintRiverFowler
Only book i could find on training retrievers at the local book store. It's a good read the author is pretty comical and straight forward makes a lot of sense abt the psychology of dogs.
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It was published in the early 80s.


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Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:50 pm
by 3legged_lab
I'm no expert but its what I used after the pup ate my first dog training book I'd bought. He fetches ducks and that really all I care.

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Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:50 pm
by Olly
Don't buy it!........... That's the DVD I'm going to burn you....

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Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:06 pm
by 3legged_lab
Olly wrote:Don't buy it!........... That's the DVD I'm going to burn you....

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Looks like he already did.

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Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:08 pm
by capt1972
I used the book "Gun Dog". Same author, great book!

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:16 pm
by Goldfish
I've heard a lot of people recommend that book along with Gun Dog by him. I've also heard people say it's best for using it as the dummy for the dog to retreive. You know how dog people are.

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:19 pm
by 3legged_lab
Goldfish wrote: You know how dog people are.

Egotistical blowhards?


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Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:24 pm
by Matt Duncan
Goldfish wrote:I've heard a lot of people recommend that book along with Gun Dog by him. I've also heard people say it's best for using it as the dummy for the dog to retreive. You know how dog people are.


Only thing that two trainers will agree on is that the third guy is doing it wrong :D

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:37 pm
by jehler
pick up and read call of the wild by jack london, all you need to know about training dogs

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:40 pm
by Matt Duncan
jehler wrote:pick up and read call of the wild by jack london, all you need to know about training dogs


Kinda outdated now that the world has been gifted the dog whisperer Cesar Milan...

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 5:46 pm
by Goldfish
Matt Duncan wrote:
Goldfish wrote:I've heard a lot of people recommend that book along with Gun Dog by him. I've also heard people say it's best for using it as the dummy for the dog to retreive. You know how dog people are.


Only thing that two trainers will agree on is that the third guy is doing it wrong :D

Lol, I like that one

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Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:39 pm
by Eric Haynes
Wolters was my trainers mentor for years. Here is what he says about him.

labtrainer wrote:It's true Richard A Wolters was controversial , but he did get a lot of folks training pups at a much younger age because of his books. You have to give him that.
He was one of the founding fathers of NAHRA which eventually led the AKC to develop their Hunt Tests.
His dog RAWS Tartu was one of the "magnificent 7" that competed and qualified at the very first NAHRA Nationals. I was there with another Pro named Joe Letta and his Dog, LaMist's Bobbi Magee (she also qualified).
He traveled the world with his dogs and promoted the "Hunting Retriever" probably more than anyone before or since.
Yes he certainly did this in part to promote his books, but then again that's what he was, a writer!
His book, Gun Dog, was the insparation to the magazine that goes by the same name.
NAHRA still holds an annual RAW Invitational in his honor.
He was an accomplished Hot Air Balloon Pilot having crossed the Swiss Alps in one, and he also enjoyed Ultra Light aircraft.
He was diagnosed with terminal cancer and after a period of treatments he went for a flight in his favorite Ultra Light and upon landing he unexpectedly refueled and went back up, shortly after takeoff his aircraft crashed, he did not survive. Speculations on the cause of the crash still exist.

Having said all that......Richard was a pain in the neck! Very outspoken, very arrogant and very self centered. As a young trainer I had the opportunity to travel with him to a couple of his Demonstration/Seminar appointments, he knew how to entertain a crowd. But, Very demanding boss! Haha :lol3:
I soon began running my own dogs and clients dogs against him in the NAHRA Tests, he hated, I mean hated to be dropped.
Many times it was a bad Judge or a bad test or the gallery was noisey or the sun was wrong or................. :no: :lol3:

Regardless of the good or the bad,......Richard was a real character! I am glad I had a chance to know him.
I think he would embrace some of the advances in todays training methods (esp. if he could take credit for them) :lol3:

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:55 pm
by Redbeard
jehler wrote:pick up and read call of the wild by jack london, all you need to know about training dogs

where the red fern grows John

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:13 pm
by jehler
Redbeard wrote:
jehler wrote:pick up and read call of the wild by jack london, all you need to know about training dogs

where the red fern grows John

That the one with the kid that kills all the coons?

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 1:01 am
by quacknstack6
Pick up Fowl Dogs 1 and 2. Thank me later.

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:13 am
by goodkarmarising
3legged_lab wrote:
Goldfish wrote: You know how dog people are.

Egotistical blowhards?


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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:06 pm
by aunt betty
I used the same book. It's kind of weak but it got me started early, got me to use an e-collar, got me to buy a dummy-launcher, got me working on dog-stands, got me working on loading and un-loading a lot.
Also got me to work, work, work at it. It takes a ton of work to get a dog that will hunt in boats, blinds, pits, dog-stands, and all the other weird situations you get into if you are a hunter who adapts constantly to what the ducks are doing.

Keep this in mind when you train. Part of training... is training the dog that new stuff happens almost every day and get used to it. When you notice you are repeating the same old routine, change it up by adding a boat or blind into the equation. Then a dog stand tied to a tree. Keep changing it up and your dog will learn to expect to have to learn new tricks.

Try dragging a 5-year old dog that has never seen a goose pit into one in the dark one morning out of the blue.
Been there, done that, and it's not a good idea. ;)

"beware of the dog" applies to both mailmen and dog trainers.
"Richard Wolters"

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:20 pm
by aunt betty
jehler wrote:pick up and read call of the wild by jack london, all you need to know about training dogs
White Fang is better. :wink:

Re: Anyone ever used this?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:28 pm
by rebelp74
aunt betty wrote:
jehler wrote:pick up and read call of the wild by jack london, all you need to know about training dogs
White Fang is better. :wink:

Dancing with Wolves.