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Tomkat wrote:I just got an acrylic short barrel. So far I like it, sounds real ducky and is not as loud as my Original.
Anyone ever hunt with a SB?
rebelp74 wrote:Yeah I have a yacht, suck it bitches!
AKPirate wrote:Jason is usually right but sometimes wrong
Flightstopper wrote:Have a hedge short barrel that although I do like a lot it doesn't get hunted. It's the one call I don't hunt that I keep around.
aunt betty wrote:Flightstopper wrote:Have a hedge short barrel that although I do like a lot it doesn't get hunted. It's the one call I don't hunt that I keep around.
That call is desirable.
I never had much luck with coco calls. The wood is too dense.
Ever weigh calls?
Had a coco and a hedge throwback. The coco was considerable heavier. It effect performance as well.
So how much would you sell the hedge SB for?
AKPirate wrote:Jason is usually right but sometimes wrong
Flightstopper wrote:Have a hedge short barrel that although I do like a lot it doesn't get hunted. It's the one call I don't hunt that I keep around.
Rick wrote:Flightstopper wrote:Have a hedge short barrel that although I do like a lot it doesn't get hunted. It's the one call I don't hunt that I keep around.
A friend blessed me with a hedge SB with a pretty neat history from back when they had their original bigger bore that may well have been the "duckiest" call I've heard, let alone owned. Loved everything about that call except that it was a "between" call that didn't fill a field need and couldn't bump either my MVP on the top end or Microhen on the bottom. So after giving it a couple seasons on the experimental loop to try and earn a permanent one, it was sent to the bench in a backup roll for a few years before I found just the right person to pass it along to last Fall. Great young fellow who's call and calling crazy and could live with the admonition, "It's a gift call: you can give it away, but if you sell it, your dick will fall off."
AKPirate wrote:Jason is usually right but sometimes wrong
Tomkat wrote:These pretty wooden calls and stories aside, mine is acrylic with a smaller bore. I like it so far. Calls are a funny thing. Ten people can sound different on the same call.
I never found a DC I liked, but its a very popular call.
Hopefully I will kill a bunch of birds with it. I have been practising a lot lately LOL
rebelp74 wrote:Yeah I have a yacht, suck it bitches!
actually coco is less dense, that's why it's softer sounding than hedge. The reason it weighs more is the oil content.aunt betty wrote:Flightstopper wrote:Have a hedge short barrel that although I do like a lot it doesn't get hunted. It's the one call I don't hunt that I keep around.
That call is desirable.
I never had much luck with coco calls. The wood is too dense.
Ever weigh calls?
Had a coco and a hedge throwback. The coco was considerable heavier. It effect performance as well.
So how much would you sell the hedge SB for?
rebelp74 wrote:...actually coco is less dense, that's why it's softer sounding than hedge. The reason it weighs more is the oil content.
Feelin' Fowl wrote:I think it's weird that you don't like the DC, but you are a fan of the SB, add they are so similar.
rebelp74 wrote:actually coco is less dense, that's why it's softer sounding than hedge. The reason it weighs more is the oil content.aunt betty wrote:Flightstopper wrote:Have a hedge short barrel that although I do like a lot it doesn't get hunted. It's the one call I don't hunt that I keep around.
That call is desirable.
I never had much luck with coco calls. The wood is too dense.
Ever weigh calls?
Had a coco and a hedge throwback. The coco was considerable heavier. It effect performance as well.
So how much would you sell the hedge SB for?
Rick wrote:rebelp74 wrote:...actually coco is less dense, that's why it's softer sounding than hedge. The reason it weighs more is the oil content.
Pretty sure "density" is expressed as weight per cubic foot, and cocobolo is considerably "denser" than hedge. Density affects a call's crispness of tone, IE: the closer a wood's density comes to that of acrylic, the closer its tone will come to acrylic's. Hedge, while not as dense as most other woods used in call making, is harder than most, a combination which gives calls made of it a quality I think of a resonance.
In any event, we're probably splitting hairs, as a bazillion and three other things have greater affect on the tone coming out the end of a call, and most folks probably wouldn't be able to identify whether a call is made of any wood, acrylic or polycarbonate by its sound unless we had identical calls of the varying materials to compare - and perhaps not then.
rebelp74 wrote:Rick wrote:rebelp74 wrote:...actually coco is less dense, that's why it's softer sounding than hedge. The reason it weighs more is the oil content.
Pretty sure "density" is expressed as weight per cubic foot, and cocobolo is considerably "denser" than hedge. Density affects a call's crispness of tone, IE: the closer a wood's density comes to that of acrylic, the closer its tone will come to acrylic's. Hedge, while not as dense as most other woods used in call making, is harder than most, a combination which gives calls made of it a quality I think of a resonance.
In any event, we're probably splitting hairs, as a bazillion and three other things have greater affect on the tone coming out the end of a call, and most folks probably wouldn't be able to identify whether a call is made of any wood, acrylic or polycarbonate by its sound unless we had identical calls of the varying materials to compare - and perhaps not then.
Gotcha, I was going with denseness as in the tightness of the grain. What is that makes cocobolo sound softer than most other woods, grain?
Rick wrote:Feelin' Fowl wrote:I think it's weird that you don't like the DC, but you are a fan of the SB, add they are so similar.
I confess I've never run the current version DC, but my old one is very different than any SB I've run in terms of both tone and ease of operation, even the early version SB that's toneboard was reshaped to create it. The old DC is HARSH, the Janis Joplin of Susies, and drives like a truck compared to any of the SBs I've tried. In fact, I use it as a truck call before the season like a runner might run in sand, up stairs or with ankle weights to make running without those handicaps easier. When the DC is running really well for me, the calls I hunt with flat sing on a whim. And when I was carrying it afield, that harsh tone sometimes did the trick of bringing birds staled on the MVP back around. Thought a cutdown's tone might offer that last advantage to an even greater degree, but three seasons of the experimental use of one left me thinking the old version DC's tone more effective in that regard.
Could well be all that changed with the current DCs, and maybe they were so similar that decreasing the SB's bore was the only way to make them appreciably different, but I know there are some Internet debaters who put on a good show of knowing their way around calls who claim the new and old are much alike. While others will tell you the new ones are a pale shadow of the old. Dunno.
rebelp74 wrote:Yeah I have a yacht, suck it bitches!
rebelp74 wrote:Yeah I have a yacht, suck it bitches!
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