AKPirate wrote:Jason is usually right but sometimes wrong
assateague wrote:Put that in your huff-n-puffer and smoke it, shootin' boy.
Mohawkwoodman wrote:Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
Olly wrote: We're still the bastard pirates of the duck forum world.
The Duck Hammer wrote:Mohawkwoodman wrote:Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
You should see BB out of a 10 on mallards. It'll throw em backwards in the air.
sws002 wrote:The Duck Hammer wrote:Mohawkwoodman wrote:Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
You should see BB out of a 10 on mallards. It'll throw em backwards in the air.
Says the guy who killed 3.5 ducks last year...
Mohawkwoodman wrote:Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
Rick wrote:RMFC will love this, because I frequently detoured from grouse hunts to jump shoot woodies back in the lead shot days, and 7 1/2s "killed them deader than shit". And that was through my little 20ga twice-shooter, which I then deemed inadequate for open water mallards, even with magnum handloads of high antimony lead 5's. Believe the biggest difference was the ranges at which those birds were apt to be targets, with small stream jump shooting for woodies, on foot or by canoe, was apt to be at closer quarters. Or not at all, as they disappeared through cover.
All a roundabout way of saying I suspect you'll find the 4s offer plenty of oomph and more chances to win.
Rick wrote:Mohawkwoodman wrote:Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
SMH. (First time I ever used that acronym. Feel downright hip.)
Olly wrote: We're still the bastard pirates of the duck forum world.
sws002 wrote:The Duck Hammer wrote:Mohawkwoodman wrote:Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
You should see BB out of a 10 on mallards. It'll throw em backwards in the air.
Says the guy who killed 3.5 ducks last year...
Olly wrote: We're still the bastard pirates of the duck forum world.
sws002 wrote:The Duck Hammer wrote:Mohawkwoodman wrote:Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
You should see BB out of a 10 on mallards. It'll throw em backwards in the air.
Says the guy who killed 3.5 ducks last year...
Deltaman wrote:[
7.5 lead Remington Express in 2 3/4 was my go to before the change to steel.
firstflight wrote:sws002 wrote:The Duck Hammer wrote:Mohawkwoodman wrote:Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
You should see BB out of a 10 on mallards. It'll throw em backwards in the air.
Says the guy who killed 3.5 ducks last year...
How many did you kill sws90210 ?
sws002 wrote:firstflight wrote:sws002 wrote:The Duck Hammer wrote:Mohawkwoodman wrote:Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
You should see BB out of a 10 on mallards. It'll throw em backwards in the air.
Says the guy who killed 3.5 ducks last year...
How many did you kill sws90210 ?
Honestly, I don't keep that good of track. Safe bet is somewhere around 100. Once again, this is a running joke with Duck Hammer, just a heads up before you get all butthurt again.
Rick wrote:On an only semi related note, it had been years since I'd seen anyone still boot-legging lead when the gentleman on the right, then well into his 80s:
was having gun trouble on that, his last, September teal hunt, and I traded him my 20 for the recalcitrant 12. TJ was a wealthy oil man who'd located his company in our area largely for its fine duck hunting, so I was a bit surprised to find he was shooting what appeared a Western Auto, or some such, pump with 2 3/4" chambering lacking enough port length to eject the 3" shells he was feeding it. Would have been even more surprised to find those 3" shells were lead 7 1/2s if I hadn't hunted TJ enough to know the cantankerous old cuss didn't believe in letting the feds, or much of anyone else, tell him what to do.
Then came the flash of instant karma. We shot our limits in short order, and I was in the pond shutting off the spinners when "BANG!" was followed immediately by "SPLASH!" Limits be damned, the old pirate couldn't resist taking a fortunately errant crack at a buzzing teal and fell on his butt in the edge of the pond. Told him it was God squaring things for all the birds he'd outlawed over the years.
Can post that photo without fear of cyber spying greenjeans, because they'd have to dig him up to prosecute. And am doing so because, despite being on opposite sides of the management fence, I miss he and several others I've known like him.
AKPirate wrote:Jason is usually right but sometimes wrong
Rick wrote:On an only semi related note, it had been years since I'd seen anyone still boot-legging lead when the gentleman on the right, then well into his 80s:
was having gun trouble on that, his last, September teal hunt, and I traded him my 20 for the recalcitrant 12. TJ was a wealthy oil man who'd located his company in our area largely for its fine duck hunting, so I was a bit surprised to find he was shooting what appeared a Western Auto, or some such, pump with 2 3/4" chambering lacking enough port length to eject the 3" shells he was feeding it. Would have been even more surprised to find those 3" shells were lead 7 1/2s if I hadn't hunted TJ enough to know the cantankerous old cuss didn't believe in letting the feds, or much of anyone else, tell him what to do.
Then came the flash of instant karma. We shot our limits in short order, and I was in the pond shutting off the spinners when "BANG!" was followed immediately by "SPLASH!" Limits be damned, the old pirate couldn't resist taking a fortunately errant crack at a buzzing teal and fell on his butt in the edge of the pond. Told him it was God squaring things for all the birds he'd outlawed over the years.
Can post that photo without fear of cyber spying greenjeans, because they'd have to dig him up to prosecute. And am doing so because, despite being on opposite sides of the management fence, I miss he and several others I've known like him.
Rick wrote:Deltaman wrote:[
7.5 lead Remington Express in 2 3/4 was my go to before the change to steel.
I was still writing for a living during the switch to steel and followed the controversy closely, and one of the things that's stuck with me was a study on the availability of lead to birds on tilled agricultural land. At a past LA governor's rice field blind outside of Kaplan, they found 1,500 7 1/2s and 8s in a cubic foot of "soil".
firstflight wrote:sws002 wrote:firstflight wrote:sws002 wrote:The Duck Hammer wrote:[quote="Mohawkwoodman"]Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
You should see BB out of a 10 on mallards. It'll throw em backwards in the air.
Says the guy who killed 3.5 ducks last year...
How many did you kill sws90210 ?
Honestly, I don't keep that good of track. Safe bet is somewhere around 100. Once again, this is a running joke with Duck Hammer, just a heads up before you get all butthurt again.
firstflight wrote:sws002 wrote:firstflight wrote:sws002 wrote:The Duck Hammer wrote:[quote="Mohawkwoodman"]Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
You should see BB out of a 10 on mallards. It'll throw em backwards in the air.
Says the guy who killed 3.5 ducks last year...
How many did you kill sws90210 ?
Honestly, I don't keep that good of track. Safe bet is somewhere around 100. Once again, this is a running joke with Duck Hammer, just a heads up before you get all butthurt again.
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Rick wrote:On an only semi related note, it had been years since I'd seen anyone still boot-legging lead when the gentleman on the right, then well into his 80s:
was having gun trouble on that, his last, September teal hunt, and I traded him my 20 for the recalcitrant 12. TJ was a wealthy oil man who'd located his company in our area largely for its fine duck hunting, so I was a bit surprised to find he was shooting what appeared a Western Auto, or some such, pump with 2 3/4" chambering lacking enough port length to eject the 3" shells he was feeding it. Would have been even more surprised to find those 3" shells were lead 7 1/2s if I hadn't hunted TJ enough to know the cantankerous old cuss didn't believe in letting the feds, or much of anyone else, tell him what to do.
Then came the flash of instant karma. We shot our limits in short order, and I was in the pond shutting off the spinners when "BANG!" was followed immediately by "SPLASH!" Limits be damned, the old pirate couldn't resist taking a fortunately errant crack at a buzzing teal and fell on his butt in the edge of the pond. Told him it was God squaring things for all the birds he'd outlawed over the years.
Can post that photo without fear of cyber spying greenjeans, because they'd have to dig him up to prosecute. And am doing so because, despite being on opposite sides of the management fence, I miss he and several others I've known like him.
I'm going to make a hunt with Rick Hall before my time on earth is through....if only to hear his stories.
AKPirate wrote:Jason is usually right but sometimes wrong
sws002 wrote:firstflight wrote:sws002 wrote:firstflight wrote:sws002 wrote:[quote="The Duck Hammer"][quote="Mohawkwoodman"]Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
You should see BB out of a 10 on mallards. It'll throw em backwards in the air.
Says the guy who killed 3.5 ducks last year...
How many did you kill sws90210 ?
Honestly, I don't keep that good of track. Safe bet is somewhere around 100. Once again, this is a running joke with Duck Hammer, just a heads up before you get all butthurt again.
NuffDaddy wrote:firstflight wrote:sws002 wrote:firstflight wrote:sws002 wrote:[quote="The Duck Hammer"][quote="Mohawkwoodman"]Ive had mallards fly or glide 100 feet or more with 4 shot even under 30 yards. Those successfully retrieved had fatal hits head shots, neck shots chest shots and all. Now i use only 2 or 1 for mallard reduces wading. 4 shot smokes wood ducks though.
You should see BB out of a 10 on mallards. It'll throw em backwards in the air.
Says the guy who killed 3.5 ducks last year...
How many did you kill sws90210 ?
Honestly, I don't keep that good of track. Safe bet is somewhere around 100. Once again, this is a running joke with Duck Hammer, just a heads up before you get all butthurt again.
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