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Woody wrote:Dan here comes one of the parts I got hung up on, Dan.
How do you attach each decoy to the long line?
From what I read there is a snap and swivle on each drop line/decoy, but how are those droplines attached to the long line in a way that they will not slide up and down it?
You said each decoy is randomly spaced so I assume there are not loops or something placed on the long line prior to going out.
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Woody wrote:Dan here comes one of the parts I got hung up on, Dan.
How do you attach each decoy to the long line?
From what I read there is a snap and swivle on each drop line/decoy, but how are those droplines attached to the long line in a way that they will not slide up and down it?
You said each decoy is randomly spaced so I assume there are not loops or something placed on the long line prior to going out.
6" clip
The clip, the clip open, the clip attached.
That's 1/4" line that I use for my inland rig and that clip will not move. We use 3/8" for the Great Lakes rig and its an even tighter fit. I've literally picked up the line anchor and towed a line of decoys with the boat to the point that the first 3-4 decoys we under water and they don't slide.
If you get your finger pinched in that clip, you'll remember it.
Woody wrote:
Okay, I see they are special clips... One of the articles I read said to use deap sea fishing clip/swivle combos.
Woody wrote:DeadEye_Dan wrote:Woody wrote:Dan here comes one of the parts I got hung up on, Dan.
How do you attach each decoy to the long line?
From what I read there is a snap and swivle on each drop line/decoy, but how are those droplines attached to the long line in a way that they will not slide up and down it?
You said each decoy is randomly spaced so I assume there are not loops or something placed on the long line prior to going out.
6" clip
The clip, the clip open, the clip attached.
That's 1/4" line that I use for my inland rig and that clip will not move. We use 3/8" for the Great Lakes rig and its an even tighter fit. I've literally picked up the line anchor and towed a line of decoys with the boat to the point that the first 3-4 decoys we under water and they don't slide.
If you get your finger pinched in that clip, you'll remember it.
Okay, I see they are special clips... One of the articles I read said to use deap sea fishing clip/swivle combos.
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Woody wrote:DeadEye_Dan wrote:Woody wrote:Dan here comes one of the parts I got hung up on, Dan.
How do you attach each decoy to the long line?
From what I read there is a snap and swivle on each drop line/decoy, but how are those droplines attached to the long line in a way that they will not slide up and down it?
You said each decoy is randomly spaced so I assume there are not loops or something placed on the long line prior to going out.
6" clip
The clip, the clip open, the clip attached.
That's 1/4" line that I use for my inland rig and that clip will not move. We use 3/8" for the Great Lakes rig and its an even tighter fit. I've literally picked up the line anchor and towed a line of decoys with the boat to the point that the first 3-4 decoys we under water and they don't slide.
If you get your finger pinched in that clip, you'll remember it.
Okay, I see they are special clips... One of the articles I read said to use deap sea fishing clip/swivle combos.
Here they are. Get the big ones. You might find them cheaper at a commercial fishing gear site - but for .61/pc, I can't complain.
http://doctarilonglines.com/longlineclipssnaps.aspx
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Some other mistakes that I've made that may shorten your learning curve.
1) don't go cheap. Cabelas/Rig em Right = garbage, but it's affordable garbage. I bought some Long Line clips from Cabelas - useless, they DID slide around and pop off the line. I can't count the number of decoys lost in the dark that popped off because of those damn cheap clips. Ended up not being so cheap when you consider the lost decoys and the fact they ended up in the trash replaced by quality clips.
Doctari Longlines has had top quality hardware (snaps, swivels, clips) and has great customer service. I am not a fan of their line - for reasons I'll explain next.
2) buy the stiffest braided line you can find. I've used Doctari line, and it's durable, doesn't rot, and holds up well. It's soft though, and has a tendency to snarl (as all "soft" line will). The stiffer braided line has all the durable qualities mentioned above, but I've never tangled it. Ever. And I've done some stupid stuff that should have resulted in tangles. Decoy Rigs in Indiana has the best line I've found - they have no website, so google it and call them for a catalog. Be prepared to shit when you see the prices - and then read point #1
3) SNAFU's will happen. Build your rig so that it can be taken apart with out a knife - you don't want to spend $$$ making a line only to snarl it your first time out an have to cut a $25 line in 3 places or start with a 24" drop and have to cut it and then end up with a drop that's too short.
4) SNAFUs happen. They happen more often when you are in a hurry. I tell new guys in my boat "tangles don't happen when you are putting decoys out. They happen when you pick them up - because if its not tangled when you pick it up, it won't be tangled when you put it out". For years (and still several times a season) I hunt by my self out of a 20' boat, and deploy 5-6 lines, by my self, while driving the boat. I've tangled decoys every way you can imagine. Slow Down.
5) I put crab pot floats on the ends of my boat anchor lines. When hunting from the boat I get the anchors where I want - then when I need to run down a cripple or get dead birds I simply unclip the anchors an toss the entire line out of the boat. The floats keep the line above the water and when I come back I can re-anchor exactly where I was in about 30 seconds by snagging the floats and tying off again.
6) take one decoy and put 3-4 strips of reflective tape on it, along with 20-30' of anchor line and a single anchor. When setting up in the dark, place this decoy 1st and use it as a reference point to set your other lines around. It's easier than you think to get separated from your decoy spread in the dark and a quick sweep of your spotlight gets you back on track, pronto. Then just pick up that decoy prior to shooting time.
(I should add we don't go out on the big water in the dark - so those last tips about setting in the dark I only use when hunting inland lakes/small water)
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Woody wrote:DeadEye_Dan wrote:Woody wrote:Dan here comes one of the parts I got hung up on, Dan.
How do you attach each decoy to the long line?
From what I read there is a snap and swivle on each drop line/decoy, but how are those droplines attached to the long line in a way that they will not slide up and down it?
You said each decoy is randomly spaced so I assume there are not loops or something placed on the long line prior to going out.
6" clip
The clip, the clip open, the clip attached.
That's 1/4" line that I use for my inland rig and that clip will not move. We use 3/8" for the Great Lakes rig and its an even tighter fit. I've literally picked up the line anchor and towed a line of decoys with the boat to the point that the first 3-4 decoys we under water and they don't slide.
If you get your finger pinched in that clip, you'll remember it.
Okay, I see they are special clips... One of the articles I read said to use deap sea fishing clip/swivle combos.
Here they are. Get the big ones. You might find them cheaper at a commercial fishing gear site - but for .61/pc, I can't complain.
http://doctarilonglines.com/longlineclipssnaps.aspx
Willie wrote:Doctari has a code to use at checkout that will save 10%, maybe 15%. I can't remember the code, but he'll tell you if you call or email him.
My setup is exactly like dans, except I use dumbbell weights, and I spray painted my drop cord reels green and put wire ties on the handle to identify the line lengths.
QH's Paw wrote:Willie wrote:Doctari has a code to use at checkout that will save 10%, maybe 15%. I can't remember the code, but he'll tell you if you call or email him.
My setup is exactly like dans, except I use dumbbell weights, and I spray painted my drop cord reels green and put wire ties on the handle to identify the line lengths.
Just go on the 'Fuge" and use their link and Doctari site adjusts the prices, if they still offer the discount.
DeadEye_Dan wrote:Once you had the clips "in hand" you see how they'll work on your lines??
Glad to offer what little help I can
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