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Oh, Hell No.

Postby assateague » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:25 pm

I would flip. The fuck. Out. Couple takes baby to hospital with flu-like symptoms. Kid has a history of heart murmur. Docs start talking about heart surgery. Parents want second opinion. Docs say no. Parents take kid out of hospital, across town to another hospital. Doc says kid is fine to go home right now, nothing serious, and parents can look after him just fine. Next day, CPS shows up with police, takes 5-month old baby. There's the synopsis. Watch the video, though. The kid has a good home, parents who are worried, and a fat fucking busy body social worker making a cop get the baby from his crib, and has to warn the mom "I'm going to grab your baby, and don't fight and don't resist". Fucking CPS will ignore crack babies, welfare babies, gangbanging parents, and so on, and not do a damn thing. But they come take this baby because some hospital wanted some insurance money. I know for a fact that if that situation happened, that I would only make matters worse. Much, much worse. Shit really hit a nerve with me. I had to watch the same crap happen to a buddy of mine in the Army, when CPS showed up because his 4 year old boy broke his arm, and when they started grilling him and his wife about it at the hospital, he told them "he's a boy- what do you think boys do? They play hard." At which point the hospital worker told him "not to get smart with me", and he told her to fuck off. CPS was at their home the next day, and took their kid for almost a year while they fought to get the kid back, because every time they dealt with him my buddy flipped out. So they decided he had "anger issues" Yes, he did- it's called being pissed that somebody took your kid away for no reason. This is a truly fucked up organization, which does very little good, and causes far too much harm. I'm honestly surprised none of them have been killed.

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Postby Mornin Beef » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:41 pm

You got enough kids.
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Postby Bulldog0156 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:12 pm

That's pretty messed up.
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Postby jehler » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:16 pm

I can't watch, Im in a good mood and want to get some sleep tonight, fear it would keep me up
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Postby Redbeard » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:22 pm

Oh fuck I'd bring down the thunder if they tried taking my kids away
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Postby Olly » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:35 pm

I would flip my shit and I'm not even a parent.

I think these parents did the right thing by getting the press involved.
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Postby Westie25 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:35 pm

jehler wrote:I can't watch, Im in a good mood and want to get some sleep tonight, fear it would keep me up


Agreed. Shit pisses me off.
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Postby Mornin Beef » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:38 pm

Duh this is obviously one side of the argument.
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Postby Olly » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:38 pm

Red, this is in California.

Do they normally need a warrant to do this or is a doctor simply claiming neglect enough probable cause to enter the home? Not trolling.
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Postby jehler » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:38 pm

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Postby obxbufflehead » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:35 pm

Olly wrote:I would flip my shit and I'm not even a parent.

I think these parents did the right thing by getting the press involved.

Same here. On both accounts.
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Postby NuffDaddy » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:54 pm

If that was my kid they woulda had of pried him out of my cold, dead hands.
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Re: Oh, Hell No.

Postby 3legged_lab » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:58 pm

Why? CPS don't carry guns. Theyd be the dead ones.
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Postby obxbufflehead » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:09 pm

3legged_lab wrote:Why? CPS don't carry guns. Theyd be the dead ones.

The police had guns.
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Postby rebelp74 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:14 pm

obxbufflehead wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:Why? CPS don't carry guns. Theyd be the dead ones.

The police had guns.

Nope, rape whsitles and flash lights are all they get.
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Postby obxbufflehead » Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:50 pm

rebelp74 wrote:
obxbufflehead wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:Why? CPS don't carry guns. Theyd be the dead ones.

The police had guns.

Nope, rape whsitles and flash lights are all they get.

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Postby NuffDaddy » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:39 am

3legged_lab wrote:Why? CPS don't carry guns. Theyd be the dead ones.

Good point. Isn't it just breaking and entering if you don't have a warrant?
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Re: Oh, Hell No.

Postby assateague » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:17 am

CPS doesn't need a warrant.
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Postby Olly » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:10 am

assateague wrote:CPS doesn't need a warrant.


A 1994 court ruling in California says they do. Although it never made it to the state supreme court.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit/1149036.html

I just read the whole case file and Assa that will make your blood boil. I'd avoid reading it if you want to have a good day.
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Postby assateague » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:57 am

Well, I've gotta read it, now.
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Re: Oh, Hell No.

Postby assateague » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:03 am

Fuck you, government. What the fuck is it their business to tell someone how to raise a child? Everything they do is just such a slap in the face. I can't wait until it all implodes. There will be some sad-faced clowns wandering around, trying to figure out how they're going to make it.
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Postby Olly » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:05 am

:lol:

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Postby Redbeard » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:54 am

Olly wrote:Red, this is in California.

Do they normally need a warrant to do this or is a doctor simply claiming neglect enough probable cause to enter the home? Not trolling.
I'm a hwy cop. How the hell should I know. But I can tell you who chugged the most syrup at the diner this morning.

This is a question for Boot. Him and his cohorts love stealing babies
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Re: Oh, Hell No.

Postby assateague » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:28 am

UPDATE

This what happened yesterday at the court hearing. And they're happy about this? I would be flipping out even further. This is absolute bullshit.

The 5-month-old baby boy who was seized by authorities in Sacramento, Calif. will be transferred to a Bay Area hospital for further medical evaluation, a court ruled Monday. However, the baby’s parents are celebrating a victory as they can now see him whenever they want and will be in charge of all the child’s medical decisions moving forward.

A detainment order has been lifted, but Child Protective Services (CPS) will continue to monitor the case, KXTV reports. The court also ruled that the parents must follow all future medical advice, including not removing their child from Stanford Medical Center without proper discharge.

“A county social worker will make regular house visits to check on Sammy once he is returned home,” the report adds.

“It’s like a special day for us. It’s like we’re in a unit with our son again,” the baby’s mother, Anna Nikolayev, said. “We’re just not going to let go anymore.”
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Postby Olly » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:40 pm

I would be looking to leave the state as soon as I could.
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Re: Oh, Hell No.

Postby jehler » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:43 pm

still not looking, sipping my tension tamer tea with my head hid softly in the sand having a grreat productive day 8-)
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Re: Oh, Hell No.

Postby Goldfish » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:34 pm

Look at the name. No wonder they are happy the govt "bent" for them. In Soviet Russia, govt bends you!

Well, that happens here too

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