Ashton Kutcher acceptance speech

[Redbeard]

I am thankful for the chinese kids that build the technological wonders that I take for granted on a daily basis.


Don't know much about this Steve fella, and two and a half men was ruined when Ashton took over for Charlie. (It was barely tolerable when Sheen was on it)

haha you're as ignorant as I am

[Bulldog0156]

I think the take home point here is that Al Gore invented the internet.

[sws002]

I think the take home point here is that Al Gore invented the internet.

There. Now Beef can close the thread.

[Olly]

I think the take home point here is that Al Gore invented the internet.

[Tiler_J]

Stating that the "originators" are the real genuises is very, very short sighted.

Yes and no. Granted, if nobody has can use it or has access to it, it is by all means useless, but all the marketing knowledge in the world doesn't get you anywhere if you don't have anything to market. I think the point Olly is trying to make is not necessarily that Jobs isn't a genius, he is, he is just a marketing genius and that's all. His anger is in the fact that he gets even one iota of credit for anything invention wise. However, I don't think it's short sighted to say that the guys who made it possible are the real geniuses, as I think you would agree it is MUCH easier to market something than it is to invent it.

Look at Edison vs Tesla, and then tell me how much more difficult/critical it is to market something.

All I'm saying is marketers NEED inventors, inventors don't necessarily need marketers. Point: you have both invented and marketed the 50/50.

Bull shit.

Without marketing guys it's just dungeons and dragons in your moms basement. Add $$$$ to the equation and all the sudden the game changes.

X2 I have a buddy who is a computer wiz-kid. He spent about 5 years and wrote an entire program for schools phone systems. It makes all attendance, truancy, and announcement calls for a school or district. Neat system, too complex for me to understand what he was doing. He got a few school districts signed up and using his system, they loved it. He sucked at marketing though, ended up with a few other competitors nation wide. They had marketing teams. He finally shut his system down and started something else. He had a great, if not better, service than his competition but no one knew about him. So he basically wasted 5 years of his life.



@ Olly- he also built a super computer and was making Bitcoins for a while. I can get some pics of it and technical info if it interests your inner nerd.

[goodkarmarising]

So does Olly have a iphone or a droid?

[jehler]

I've already put a deposit on an iPhone 6 so I'll be one if the first to have it

[3legged_lab]

So does Olly have a iphone or a droid?

Ha ha.

[Feelin' Fowl]

I've already put a deposit on an iPhone 6 so I'll be one if the first to have it

Did they set you up on a payment plan for the 6b so that it isn't that big of a deal when it comes out 2 months after the 6?

[jehler]

I've already put a deposit on an iPhone 6 so I'll be one if the first to have it

Did they set you up on a payment plan for the 6b so that it isn't that big of a deal when it comes out 2 months after the 6?

you mean the 6s?

[Feelin' Fowl]

I've already put a deposit on an iPhone 6 so I'll be one if the first to have it

Did they set you up on a payment plan for the 6b so that it isn't that big of a deal when it comes out 2 months after the 6?

you mean the 6s?

Sure. B just meaning 2nd edition...

[assateague]

I've already put a deposit on an iPhone 6 so I'll be one if the first to have it

Did they set you up on a payment plan for the 6b so that it isn't that big of a deal when it comes out 2 months after the 6?

you mean the 6s?

The s stands for "sucker". Olly just told me that in a PM.

[sws002]

I've already put a deposit on an iPhone 6 so I'll be one if the first to have it

Did they set you up on a payment plan for the 6b so that it isn't that big of a deal when it comes out 2 months after the 6?

you mean the 6s?

The s stands for "sucker". Olly just told me that in a PM.

Lol'd for real

[jehler]

I hope you all caught the sarcasm ^

[Olly]

SUCKER