Small Engine Question

[one2many]

I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

why is everyone calling them "garden tractors"? it's a fucking lawn mower, you aren't bailing hay or discing your fucking yard!

no you are wrong there is a big difference google should be your friend

[assateague]

I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

My last mower before this one was an IH 982, which had somewhere around 950 hours on it (maybe 400 of them mine) when the tranny shit the bed. It would still run, but had no reverse (hydrostatic). I finished the season out, planning WAAAAAYYYY ahead when cutting the grass, but still spent more than few minutes pushing it backwards out of a situation I couldn't avoid, but had to cut anyway.

This isn't mine, but this is the one. That thing was a beast. I miss it. The JD I replaced it with is a plastic piece of tomfoolery, but it has performed well for me for 300 hours or so. Always bugged me that the tranny in that JD is sealed, also.

[one2many]

I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

The current production cubs are fucking shit. I will never own another one. Mines in the shop more than it is cutting grass.

i could not agree more. note where i said the old cubs when IH still made them.1982/83 and older.

I understood you. Just throwing my experience out there so Assa didn't make the same fuck up I did.

ok cool but ASSA aint buy a new one

[assateague]

I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

why is everyone calling them "garden tractors"? it's a fucking lawn mower, you aren't bailing hay or discing your fucking yard!

A garden tractor has a PTO.

[one2many]

I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

My last mower before this one was an IH 982, which had somewhere around 950 hours on it (maybe 400 of them mine) when the tranny shit the bed. It would still run, but had no reverse (hydrostatic). I finished the season out, planning WAAAAAYYYY ahead when cutting the grass, but still spent more than few minutes pushing it backwards out of a situation I couldn't avoid, but had to cut anyway.

This isn't mine, but this is the one. That thing was a beast. I miss it. The JD I replaced it with is a plastic piece of tomfoolery, but it has performed well for me for 300 hours or so. Always bugged me that the tranny in that JD is sealed, also.

love them old red cubs!!!! getting hard to find them and non running ones still demand some cash around my area.

[one2many]

I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

why is everyone calling them "garden tractors"? it's a fucking lawn mower, you aren't bailing hay or discing your fucking yard!

A garden tractor has a PTO.

and to add they have plows,discs and tillers made for them to do you garden

[assateague]

Wish you wouldn't have told me that. That one got hauled to the scrap yard, where I think I got about $20. And I was happy with it. Until now. Thanks Jeff. Thanks a lot.

[The Duck Hammer]

[quote="assateague"]I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

The current production cubs are fucking shit. I will never own another one. Mines in the shop more than it is cutting grass.

i could not agree more. note where i said the old cubs when IH still made them.1982/83 and older.

I understood you. Just throwing my experience out there so Assa didn't make the same fuck up I did.

ok cool but ASSA aint buy a new one [/quote]

Not saying he was going too, I see a lot of the newer ones for sale down here.

[assateague]

Our neighbor has a cub cadet, and the same thing you said- that fucker is always broke. I complain about that JD of mine, but it really is a good mower. I just wish it had a Kohler in it instead of a Briggs.

[jarbo03]

I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

why is everyone calling them "garden tractors"? it's a fucking lawn mower, you aren't bailing hay or discing your fucking yard!

My neighbor bales his yard but he uses a 4440.

i dont let my lawns get tall enough to make hay with it.

I could bail mine right now.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

why is everyone calling them "garden tractors"? it's a fucking lawn mower, you aren't bailing hay or discing your fucking yard!

A garden tractor has a PTO.

you lie, i've never seen this witchcraft you speak of on a "garden tractor" only on real equipment.

that said, if you need a PTO for your yard, you either have too much yard or not enough equipment.

[assateague]

I may or may not have meant "3 point hitch".

[(MT)Montanafowler]

I may or may not have meant "3 point hitch".

same comment still applies.

[one2many]

Wish you wouldn't have told me that. That one got hauled to the scrap yard, where I think I got about $20. And I was happy with it. Until now. Thanks Jeff. Thanks a lot.

sorry. i would have paid between 200-300 for a 682 or 782 if the motor was out out of it but the frame and tin all in good shape
i would go even 1 or 2 hundred more for the 982

















i forgot how to spell "hundred"

damn

[one2many]

I may or may not have meant "3 point hitch".

same comment still applies.

garden tractors are bigger heavier and stronger built for doing more then cutting grass
law mover does not = garden tractor
just like garden tractor does not= 9560R

[huntall6]

I may or may not have meant "3 point hitch".

same comment still applies.

Bs. A JD 318 is a garden tractor. You can have a tiller on the back and a snow blower on the front. A 2 point hitch will serve great for a small tractor. They also had front and rear hydrolics and are the same size as AT's mower. If you get to a 420 or its diesel sister, a 430, you have a lot of tractor that looks like a mower.

[huntall6]

I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

why is everyone calling them "garden tractors"? it's a fucking lawn mower, you aren't bailing hay or discing your fucking yard!

A garden tractor has a PTO.

Hydrolics can do most things a pto can...

[one2many]

I may or may not have meant "3 point hitch".

same comment still applies.

Bs. A JD 318 is a garden tractor. You can have a tiller on the back and a snow blower on the front. A 2 point hitch will serve great for a small tractor. They also had front and rear hydrolics and are the same size as AT's mower. If you get to a 420 or its diesel sister, a 430, you have a lot of tractor that looks like a mower.

if you are talking John deere 420 and 430. they both come with same engine options. 420 made from 1956 - 1958 and 430 made from 1958 - 1960.
i buy every 420 i can

[one2many]

I get my mowers either from the classifieds or the guy's house down the road who runs a semi-formal repair shop from his garage. I've had two mowers in the last 16 years, and have spent less than $800 combined. I'll be damned if I'm gonna go buy something new this time, if I need a new one. Which I very well might, after tearing this thing apart without a clue what I'm doing.

money well spent. i wouldnt change the way you do it.
i buy older cubs 682,782,982 the red ones before IH sold the cubs to MTD. they are still my favorite garden tractors and the ones i use all the time

why is everyone calling them "garden tractors"? it's a fucking lawn mower, you aren't bailing hay or discing your fucking yard!

A garden tractor has a PTO.

Hydrolics can do most things a pto can...

not all garden tractors have *hydraulics*

[huntall6]

Never said they do, simply meant what I said.

[huntall6]

And good call on the engine option, it was late and I ha been in the whiskey.....

[one2many]

Never said they do, simply meant what I said.

old tractors hydraulics cant do as much as a pto. new high horse power high pressure hydraulics are a Godsend.

[one2many]

And good call on the engine option, it was late and I ha been in the whiskey.....

i have maybe 20 420s

[assateague]

So far so good. Hoping it was just a bad valve cover gasket. Getting ready to adjust all the valves, put this bitch back together, and see if it catches on fire.

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[MuddyWaterWarlock]

So far so good. Hoping it was just a bad valve cover gasket. Getting ready to adjust all the valves, put this bitch back together, and see if it catches on fire.

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Run the valves more than once. Spark plugs out, get the flywheel 1/4 turn past top dead center adjust to .004(i believe) turn motor a couple of times by hand and make sure adjustment is proper. It will surprise you how much better that BS starts and runs with the valves correct.

[assateague]

The recommendation was 004 to 006, so I went with 005. When I started, the closest of the 4 was 019, and the worst was 042. Not sure if that would contribute to the oil leaking, but after tearing it apart I'm 97% certain the oil was coming from the passenger side valve cover. It did turn over quick as a mofo after the adjustments, but I'm waiting till tomorrow morning to run it for a while, to let the gasket sealant set up good on the covers. Hopefully the gusher of oil has stopped at least enough to not set the thing aflame.

[one2many]

going to be mowing tomorrow? didnt take you long considering it was a first time.i know nothing of briggs

[assateague]

Hopefully. Don't know if that fixed it until I run it for a bit.

[one2many]

here is where to get some high performance stuff. make the girls a sweet little pulling tractor

[MuddyWaterWarlock]

The recommendation was 004 to 006, so I went with 005. When I started, the closest of the 4 was 019, and the worst was 042. Not sure if that would contribute to the oil leaking, but after tearing it apart I'm 97% certain the oil was coming from the passenger side valve cover. It did turn over quick as a mofo after the adjustments, but I'm waiting till tomorrow morning to run it for a while, to let the gasket sealant set up good on the covers. Hopefully the gusher of oil has stopped at least enough to not set the thing aflame.

Glad to hear it. There have been thousands of BS starters replaced because of mis-adjusted valves. It will crank slow and kick back and then take off spinning like a weak starter does. You should be good to go