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Re: If you were elected President

Postby jehler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:02 pm

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Re: If you were elected President

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Re: If you were elected President

Postby The Duck Hammer » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:14 pm

jehler wrote:All prisons would be essentially cool hand Luke, prisoners would make prisons self sufficient through farming


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Re: If you were elected President

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Re: If you were elected President

Postby Tomkat » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:23 pm

jehler wrote:All prisons would be essentially cool hand Luke, prisoners would make prisons self sufficient through farming


Really?

So would they sell the surplus crops to give the profit to the treasury?

And isn't it true that crop prices are artifically subsidised with my tax dollars?
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby The Duck Hammer » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:28 pm

Tomkat wrote:
jehler wrote:All prisons would be essentially cool hand Luke, prisoners would make prisons self sufficient through farming


Really?

So would they sell the surplus crops to give the profit to the treasury?

And isn't it true that crop prices are artifically subsidised with my tax dollars?


Crops have a government enforced price floor.
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby jehler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:32 pm

Tomkat wrote:
jehler wrote:All prisons would be essentially cool hand Luke, prisoners would make prisons self sufficient through farming


Really?

So would they sell the surplus crops to give the profit to the treasury?

And isn't it true that crop prices are artifically subsidised with my tax dollars?
no, and screw you and Goldie for wanting to put soldiers to work under the guise of "army corp of engineers" govt doing anything except defending and handling delegating the funds gained from tariffs is communism, under my watch the govt WILL NOT compete not regulate with the fair market
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby jehler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:33 pm

I'd as soon pay a soldier to drink beer and take a nap as take a job from a common man, that soldier will warn his pay should we need to kick some ass
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby jehler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:34 pm

And to hell with you guys that say we will not be a world police, when I'm president every other president in the world will ask my permission to fart or suffer the wrath of our mite
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby jehler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:39 pm

This thread has me fired up, I'm ready to run, I can't say why, but I know a guy with a garage full of VOTE EHLERS stickers, signs and buttons, all if have to do is throw in my hat
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby waterfowlman » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:55 pm

New voting laws immediately......only persons who are fully employed or who have retired from a life time of work are allowed to vote.
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby NuffDaddy » Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:58 pm

waterfowlman wrote:New voting laws immediately......only persons who are fully employed or who have retired from a life time of work are allowed to vote.

Or a full time student.
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby DeadEye_Dan » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:06 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:
waterfowlman wrote:New voting laws immediately......only persons who are fully employed or who have retired from a life time of work are allowed to vote.

Or a full time student.

Nope. Fuck your student status. Once you start contributing, you can have a say.
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:07 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:Or a full time student.


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Re: If you were elected President

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:08 pm

DeadEye_Dan wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
waterfowlman wrote:New voting laws immediately......only persons who are fully employed or who have retired from a life time of work are allowed to vote.

Or a full time student.

Nope. Fuck your student status. Once you start contributing, you can have a say.
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what about guys like me, who have contributed and are now back in school?
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:12 pm

also:
develop new regulations for farming, which don't hold small farms to the same standards as corporate farms. end funding for the corporate farms, if you can't survive on your own, you sink like the rest of the business world. encourage state regulation of farming and distribution, outside of interstate commerce which still falls under federal authority.
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby The Duck Hammer » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:13 pm

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
DeadEye_Dan wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
waterfowlman wrote:New voting laws immediately......only persons who are fully employed or who have retired from a life time of work are allowed to vote.

Or a full time student.

Nope. Fuck your student status. Once you start contributing, you can have a say.
Children should be seen and not heard.


what about guys like me, who have contributed and are now back in school?


Or those who work their asses off during summer and on breaks to get the opportunity to be a full time student the rest of the year?


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Re: If you were elected President

Postby Tomkat » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:13 pm

jehler wrote:
Tomkat wrote:
jehler wrote:All prisons would be essentially cool hand Luke, prisoners would make prisons self sufficient through farming


Really?

So would they sell the surplus crops to give the profit to the treasury?

And isn't it true that crop prices are artifically subsidised with my tax dollars?
no, and screw you and Goldie for wanting to put soldiers to work under the guise of "army corp of engineers" govt doing anything except defending and handling delegating the funds gained from tariffs is communism, under my watch the govt WILL NOT compete not regulate with the fair market


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Re: If you were elected President

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:16 pm

The Duck Hammer wrote:
(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
DeadEye_Dan wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
waterfowlman wrote:New voting laws immediately......only persons who are fully employed or who have retired from a life time of work are allowed to vote.

Or a full time student.

Nope. Fuck your student status. Once you start contributing, you can have a say.
Children should be seen and not heard.


what about guys like me, who have contributed and are now back in school?


Or those who work their asses off during summer and on breaks to get the opportunity to be a full time student the rest of the year?


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Re: If you were elected President

Postby The Duck Hammer » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:17 pm

Me too brother.


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Re: If you were elected President

Postby NuffDaddy » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:26 pm

DeadEye_Dan wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
waterfowlman wrote:New voting laws immediately......only persons who are fully employed or who have retired from a life time of work are allowed to vote.

Or a full time student.

Nope. Fuck your student status. Once you start contributing, you can have a say.
Children should be seen and not heard.

Nope...Your wrong
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:27 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:
DeadEye_Dan wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
waterfowlman wrote:New voting laws immediately......only persons who are fully employed or who have retired from a life time of work are allowed to vote.

Or a full time student.

Nope. Fuck your student status. Once you start contributing, you can have a say.
Children should be seen and not heard.

Nope...Your wrong


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Re: If you were elected President

Postby NuffDaddy » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:27 pm

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
The Duck Hammer wrote:
(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
DeadEye_Dan wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:[quote="waterfowlman"]New voting laws immediately......only persons who are fully employed or who have retired from a life time of work are allowed to vote.

Or a full time student.

Nope. Fuck your student status. Once you start contributing, you can have a say.
Children should be seen and not heard.


what about guys like me, who have contributed and are now back in school?


Or those who work their asses off during summer and on breaks to get the opportunity to be a full time student the rest of the year?


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that's where i'm at.[/quote]
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby NuffDaddy » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:28 pm

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
DeadEye_Dan wrote:
NuffDaddy wrote:
waterfowlman wrote:New voting laws immediately......only persons who are fully employed or who have retired from a life time of work are allowed to vote.

Or a full time student.

Nope. Fuck your student status. Once you start contributing, you can have a say.
Children should be seen and not heard.

Nope...Your wrong


You're

Fucking education system.
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby assateague » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:38 pm

And that's why you don't get to vote.
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:44 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:Fucking education system.


assateague wrote:And that's why you don't get to vote.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

i still don't understand how that contraction escapes so many people today.
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby one2many » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:54 pm

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:also:
develop new regulations for farming, which don't hold small farms to the same standards as corporate farms. end funding for the corporate farms, if you can't survive on your own, you sink like the rest of the business world. encourage state regulation of farming and distribution, outside of interstate commerce which still falls under federal authority.

so you want all small family farms gobbled up by the large "corporate farms". the small family farms are the ones that cant compete and are disappearing!
i would like your definition of a corporate farm.seeing as almost all family farms are INCs and LLCs and the like.
and what do you feel the states should regulate?
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:17 pm

one2many wrote:so you want all small family farms gobbled up by the large "corporate farms". the small family farms are the ones that cant compete and are disappearing!
i would like your definition of a corporate farm.seeing as almost all family farms are INCs and LLCs and the like.
and what do you feel the states should regulate?


quite the contrary, I think that small farms are held to a standard that they can't survive in, hence why they are going under and being bought out. How are you supposed to grow crops when Monsanto can sue you for everything you're worth because of seed (genetic) drift? The farmer doesn't see more than 8 percent of the profit, most of it goes into the market. I consider farms in excess of 10,000 acres corporate. Places like that are diverse enough that they should be able to stand on their own, without subsidies. Farming practices need to change if we're ever going to have sustainable farming, we need to foster the ag industry by supporting and buying from the smaller farmers who are working toward sustainable farming practices and integrated agroecology. States should regulate whatever the federal system currently regulates, Like jehler said, the federal government is for protection and interstate commerce, we probably can't get back to just those, but the closer the better.
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby Woody » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:33 pm

A Jehler/WFM ticket has got my vote.
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Re: If you were elected President

Postby DeadEye_Dan » Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:37 pm

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
one2many wrote:so you want all small family farms gobbled up by the large "corporate farms". the small family farms are the ones that cant compete and are disappearing!
i would like your definition of a corporate farm.seeing as almost all family farms are INCs and LLCs and the like.
and what do you feel the states should regulate?


quite the contrary, I think that small farms are held to a standard that they can't survive in, hence why they are going under and being bought out. How are you supposed to grow crops when Monsanto can sue you for everything you're worth because of seed (genetic) drift? The farmer doesn't see more than 8 percent of the profit, most of it goes into the market. I consider farms in excess of 10,000 acres corporate. Places like that are diverse enough that they should be able to stand on their own, without subsidies. Farming practices need to change if we're ever going to have sustainable farming, we need to foster the ag industry by supporting and buying from the smaller farmers who are working toward sustainable farming practices and integrated agroecology. States should regulate whatever the federal system currently regulates, Like jehler said, the federal government is for protection and interstate commerce, we probably can't get back to just those, but the closer the better.


This is quite possibly the most backassward thing I've ever read on this site.

I've got news for you. The govt isn't keeping the 10,000 acre farmer in business. Those guys are sharks. They would love nothing more than the govt to stay the fuck out of their way and stop subsidizing everything. If they did that, the little farms would be gone faster than a blink of an eye.

The big are going to get bigger and the small are going to be acquired and or pushed out. Agriculture is no different than any other industry when it comes to economics.
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