New 2014 Bows

[rozzo842]

For some reason I laughed at that. It's really not funny.

its roaming around in the town next to mine. I wonder if it was a real bad shot or if someone was taking head shots

[The Duck Hammer]

For some reason I laughed at that. It's really not funny.

its roaming around in the town next to mine. I wonder if it was a real bad shot or if someone was taking head shots

Don't start that ethics blood bath again.

[huntall6]

Doesn't matter what kind of bow I use. As long as I use my bowmag!

[The Duck Hammer]

Doesn't matter what kind of bow I use. As long as I use my bowmag!

GTFO

[3legged_lab]

Must not have been the latest and greatest bow

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Woulda been a real shooter next year.

[Goldfish]

If you're worried about ethical, you damn sure shouldn't be hunting with a recurve.

i'm not talking ethical shooting. i'm saying that you bowhunt to get close to the animal, using the skills you developed and honed over time. it's man versus beast. it seems to me that with the 5 million dollar bow, you take away that personal connection and cheapen the experience.

I got a bow (compound which cost $280) because it extends my season and gives me many places to hunt right around my place. It pisses me off having to get closer to the deer

sent from a phancy fone

[assateague]

Must not have been the latest and greatest bow

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Recurve.

[one2many]

Just wondered why a guy would get a new bow during deer season.
I suppose it could be replacing a broken one or something but its doc...nevermind.

I've always wondered that too. Or buying a new bow every year and selling it at the end of the season. Don't understand why you wouldn't pick one and get comfortable with it.

i get a new one every two years. my brother get a few new ones every year but he travels all over shooting and is sponsored. little douche!

[one2many]

And silence. My bow is amazingly quiet.

so much more quiet then the a bow from just ten years ago

[one2many]

Did I say anything about unethical shots? Or a fucking laser beam bow? All I'm saying is that a 25 yard shot is easier to make with a compound than a recurve. Never said you shouldn't hunt with a recurve.

Why is a recurve acceptable technology? Why not spears? Or rocks only? Wouldn't that also be tradional?

i'm just arguing diminishing returns. you spend 500 bucks for something that is only a tiny bit better than something that has been around for millennia.

i'm not trying to start a war, i'm just trying to figure out why the 5 million dollar bow is better and how you quantify it.

tiny bit better? bows are getting so fast its starting to get hard to see the arrow fly very good. they are whisper quiet. they are also crazy accurate. yes there are a handful of guys that are trick shot masters with longbow and recurve. most people are not like that.

[assateague]

Sort of like saying a 60 yard shot is ethical with a flintlock, so if you want a .30-06 to take 200 yard shots, it's unethical. Nonsense.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Sort of like saying a 60 yard shot is ethical with a flintlock, so if you want a .30-06 to take 200 yard shots, it's unethical. Nonsense.

apples to oranges, those are two totally different systems. All bows use the same energy source.

[aunt betty]

AT don't need a fancy bow. Simply turn him loose with a claw hammer. If that don't work he'll make a bow, arrows, and arrowheads with the hammer.

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[assateague]

Sort of like saying a 60 yard shot is ethical with a flintlock, so if you want a .30-06 to take 200 yard shots, it's unethical. Nonsense.

apples to oranges, those are two totally different systems. All bows use the same energy source.

All firearms use the same energy source too, last I checked.

[The Duck Hammer]

AT don't need a fancy bow. Simply turn him loose with a claw hammer. If that don't work he'll make a bow, arrows, and arrowheads with the hammer.

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What are you talking about? He has a damn Mathews.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Sort of like saying a 60 yard shot is ethical with a flintlock, so if you want a .30-06 to take 200 yard shots, it's unethical. Nonsense.

apples to oranges, those are two totally different systems. All bows use the same energy source.

All firearms use the same energy source too, last I checked.

black powder and smokeless have two different energy outputs, as well as different projectiles.


bows still shoot the same arrows, and use the force of a drawn string.


serious question: how far can you (meaning an average person) effectively shoot a compound? my understanding is it has enough energy to kill to about 70 yards, with anything beyond that being iffy.

i'm basing my statements off of my understanding that the typical "effective" shot with a bow, either recurve or compound, is roughly 40 yards.

[one2many]

Sort of like saying a 60 yard shot is ethical with a flintlock, so if you want a .30-06 to take 200 yard shots, it's unethical. Nonsense.

apples to oranges, those are two totally different systems. All bows use the same energy source.

All firearms use the same energy source too, last I checked.

black powder and smokeless have two different energy outputs, as well as different projectiles.


bows still shoot the same arrows, and use the force of a drawn string.


serious question: how far can you (meaning an average person) effectively shoot a compound? my understanding is it has enough energy to kill to about 70 yards, with anything beyond that being iffy.

i'm basing my statements off of my understanding that the typical "effective" shot with a bow, either recurve or compound, is roughly 40 yards.

carbon arrows are NOT the same as wood arrows. the string is not what gives a bow power.
not much on bow hunting are you?
i never shoot a bow at a deer over 50 yards tops, mostly 30 yards and closer. i do shoot targets out to 100 but thats some crazy shit.

i will shoot at a coyote at any yardage,even if i just wound the fucker

[NuffDaddy]

Sort of like saying a 60 yard shot is ethical with a flintlock, so if you want a .30-06 to take 200 yard shots, it's unethical. Nonsense.

apples to oranges, those are two totally different systems. All bows use the same energy source.

All firearms use the same energy source too, last I checked.

black powder and smokeless have two different energy outputs, as well as different projectiles.


bows still shoot the same arrows, and use the force of a drawn string.


serious question: how far can you (meaning an average person) effectively shoot a compound? my understanding is it has enough energy to kill to about 70 yards, with anything beyond that being iffy.

i'm basing my statements off of my understanding that the typical "effective" shot with a bow, either recurve or compound, is roughly 40 yards.

If you can consistently hit a deer with a recurve at 40 yards you are a damn good shot. I can put 6 arrows in a 6 inch group at 60 yards with my compound...And I'm not a great shot. If you can put 6 arrows in a 6" group at 30 yards with a recurve you are a great shot.

[assateague]

Sort of like saying a 60 yard shot is ethical with a flintlock, so if you want a .30-06 to take 200 yard shots, it's unethical. Nonsense.

apples to oranges, those are two totally different systems. All bows use the same energy source.

All firearms use the same energy source too, last I checked.

black powder and smokeless have two different energy outputs, as well as different projectiles.


bows still shoot the same arrows, and use the force of a drawn string.


serious question: how far can you (meaning an average person) effectively shoot a compound? my understanding is it has enough energy to kill to about 70 yards, with anything beyond that being iffy.

i'm basing my statements off of my understanding that the typical "effective" shot with a bow, either recurve or compound, is roughly 40 yards.

Doesn't matter. Both flintlocks and modern firearms use a chemical explosion to propel a lead projectile from a rifled barrel.

But I'll break down exactly why it's apples to apples:

Flintlock and Recurve:
Slower, less accurate
Older technology
Not able to reliably repeat results
Shorter range

Compound and Modern Firearm:
Faster, more accurate
Newer technology
Able to reliably repeat results
Longer range

Compounds and recurves use a string.
Flintlocks and rifles use an explosion.

Compounds and recurves use an arrow.
Flintlocks and rifles use a hunk of lead.

Compounds have added cams and pulleys to elevate them beyond recurves.
Modern rifles have added smokeless powder and increased pressures to elevate them beyond flintlocks.


It is a 100% valid comparison. To say that a compound is an ethical improvement over a recurve is accurate, as is saying a rifle is an ethical improvement over a flintlock. If you're going to insist on only hunting with a recurve, you damn well better not own a modern rifle.


As for effective range, I have no idea. At least 70 yards with a compound, though, although a lot will depend on draw weight. I would say that in the average users hands, the ethical range is at least twice as great with a compound bow.

[rebelp74]

Except for bow mags, they do it all.

[The Duck Hammer]

Except for bow mags, they do it all.

No

[The Duck Hammer]

On the bus ride back from OK Foods last week some of the other kids were showing trail cam pictures of their monster deer that they are going to kill and one of them brought up the bowmag. He was talking about how badass and super powerful it was. Made me want to scream. Some people's children.

[3legged_lab]

i'm basing my statements off of my absolutely zero first hand experience, strictly hearsay and uneducated opinion.

Oh, now I get it.

[The Duck Hammer]

i'm basing my statements off of my absolutely zero first hand experience, strictly hearsay and uneducated opinion.

Oh, now I get it.

[rebelp74]

On the bus ride back from OK Foods last week some of the other kids were showing trail cam pictures of their monster deer that they are going to kill and one of them brought up the bowmag. He was talking about how badass and super powerful it was. Made me want to scream. Some people's children.

[aunt betty]

Sort of like saying a 60 yard shot is ethical with a flintlock, so if you want a .30-06 to take 200 yard shots, it's unethical. Nonsense.

apples to oranges, those are two totally different systems. All bows use the same energy source.

All firearms use the same energy source too, last I checked.

black powder and smokeless have two different energy outputs, as well as different projectiles.


bows still shoot the same arrows, and use the force of a drawn string.


serious question: how far can you (meaning an average person) effectively shoot a compound? my understanding is it has enough energy to kill to about 70 yards, with anything beyond that being iffy.

i'm basing my statements off of my understanding that the typical "effective" shot with a bow, either recurve or compound, is roughly 40 yards.

my arm is smaller than yours therefore has completely different energy output...lol

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[one2many]

i have long arms. draw lengths are not long enough for me from factory

[jmitch]

Damn deer kept me in the treestand 45 minutes after dark tonight. Bastards wouldn't leave and it was too dark to shoot em

[one2many]

Damn deer kept me in the treestand 45 minutes after dark tonight. Bastards wouldn't leave and it was too dark to shoot em

i hate that shit!!

[jmitch]

Damn deer kept me in the treestand 45 minutes after dark tonight. Bastards wouldn't leave and it was too dark to shoot em

i hate that shit!!

No shit. I was a 75 yards from my back door and they were between me and the house. Fucking bitches