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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby aunt betty » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:54 pm

Couple a beers ago I thought this thread was funny, it's hilarious now.


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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby rebelp74 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:54 pm

The Duck Hammer wrote:I see a butthurt report coming. Forget I said anything.

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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby The Duck Hammer » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:57 pm

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The Duck Hammer wrote:I see a butthurt report coming. Forget I said anything.

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Take your uterus coot and GTFO.
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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby rebelp74 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:58 pm

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The Duck Hammer wrote:I see a butthurt report coming. Forget I said anything.

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Take your uterus coot and GTFO.

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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby assateague » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:58 pm

It really does look like a uterus.
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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby rebelp74 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:59 pm

assateague wrote:It really does look like a uterus.

Seen very many?
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Re: This stuff scares me.

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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby rebelp74 » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:00 pm

You just beefed this thread
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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby The Duck Hammer » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:01 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby aunt betty » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:03 pm

Woa, that went to hell pretty quickly.

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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby one2many » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:13 am

rebelp74 wrote:You just beefed this thread

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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Olly » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:55 am

I just wanna know why Assa gets to be the self sufficient guy who doesn't need cops and wants the people in this country to start taking responsibility for themselves and that makes him a stand up guy and model American and when I want the same thing I'm a cop hating anarchist who needs to go learn more facts?
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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Feelin' Fowl » Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:33 am

Olly wrote:I just wanna know why Assa gets to be the self sufficient guy who doesn't need cops and wants the people in this country to start taking responsibility for themselves and that makes him a stand up guy and model American and when I want the same thing I'm a cop hating anarchist who needs to go learn more facts?


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Re: This stuff scares me.

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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Tomkat » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:36 am

rebelp74 wrote:
(MT)Montanafowler wrote:under the laws of the time, they were governing fairly. you never said under our current laws and beliefs.

A good bit of our current laws and beliefs are the problem.


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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:24 am

Olly wrote:I just wanna know why Assa gets to be the self sufficient guy who doesn't need cops and wants the people in this country to start taking responsibility for themselves and that makes him a stand up guy and model American and when I want the same thing I'm a cop hating anarchist who needs to go learn more facts?


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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:29 am

Olly wrote:I just wanna know why Assa gets to be the self sufficient guy who doesn't need cops and wants the people in this country to start taking responsibility for themselves and that makes him a stand up guy and model American and when I want the same thing I'm a cop hating anarchist who needs to go learn more facts?


honestly Olly, i think it's because Assa really walks the walk, but i'm not saying you don't as well either.

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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Laguna Madre » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:51 am

First of all if the incident went down the way the article said it did the guy will be a multi- millionaire and the judge who signed the warrant should have to undergo the same procedure. Not sure what probable cause is in New Mexico but a Texas judge would laugh you out of his courtroom if you requested a warrant for a cavity search and your only PC was the way someone was standing. Even our Justice's of the Peace wouldn't sign that.

I highly suspect there is more to the story than what is being represented by the media and the guys attorney. I have been on many scenes (NOT CAVITY SEARCHES-I WOULD NEVER BE A PART OF THAT) then read the news account the following day and was appalled at how the media reported it. Wasn't even close to accurately presenting the facts of the case.

That being said I foresee some type of legislation being enacted that would require only district judges being able to sign search warrants for body cavities and the standard of probably cause to justify the warrant should be extremely high. Why some police will go through all that trouble for user amounts of dope is mind boggling to me. If the guy had a murder weapon shoved up there then so be it but a couple of joints. Come on.
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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Redbeard » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:00 am

Olly wrote:I just wanna know why Assa gets to be the self sufficient guy who doesn't need cops and wants the people in this country to start taking responsibility for themselves and that makes him a stand up guy and model American and when I want the same thing I'm a cop hating anarchist who needs to go learn more facts?
of course you can be that guy. I couldn't care less. But if someone is gonna spout off about something I believe they know little about, I'll debate em on it. Especially when it involves my livelihood. Honestly I don't think everyone dog piled on just you. AT just for whatever reason, didn't engage this debate much. But I'll stand up against him just as much as I would against you should he share your stance and wanna argue it. A lot of questions were asked here and either not answered or skirted


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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby assateague » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:18 am

I get that it seems that there must be some other underlying issue. BUT. Why the need for a damn colonoscopy and three enemas? I don't care if the probable cause was "we saw him jamming a Walmart bag full of heroin in his anus". I was under the impression that someone like that would be held and his poop "observed". I have no clue what the probable cause would have to be which involved 2 digital probes, a colonscopy, 3 enemas, and a couple x-rays, but it seems more than a little unrealistic, and unnecessary. Unless they thought he had a nuclear weapon up there which was set to go off in 2 hours. 50/50™


I haven't jumped on the cops because it doesn't seem to be their fault (unless they lied on the warrant paperwork, but that's pushing the envelope too far into imagination). It's not like they took him into an alley and jammed a plunger in his ass, in which case I would be more than happy to badmouth them. But that's not what happened. The judge OK'd this process, and he's the one who should be at fault. Like I said, I'd be curious to hear exactly what it would take to OK this sort of thing over just holding him and sifting his poop. I don't get the "urgency".

As far as enforcing laws, I'm fine with that. It's not the cops I have a problem with when it comes to being allowed to protect myself, it's the legislators and lawyers who propagate the idea that if I do so I'm wrong. While I'm not a fan at all of the changing mindset of most police departments, I've never ever been told by a cop not to defend myself. Quite the contrary. It's the prosecutors, judges, and legislatures that are the problem there. I would like to see a little more thinking and a little less "just following orders/doing my job", though. The police aren't the military, and I'm not sure when it came to be that an awful lot of them think of themselves as such. When I see a county sheriff here with someone pulled over for speeding, and they're standing there dressed like a damn Navy SEAL, there's going to be problems.
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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Redbeard » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:24 am

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Olly wrote:I just wanna know why Assa gets to be the self sufficient guy who doesn't need cops and wants the people in this country to start taking responsibility for themselves and that makes him a stand up guy and model American and when I want the same thing I'm a cop hating anarchist who needs to go learn more facts?


Red gives everyone shit, you and I seem to be at the top of his radar sometimes. Don't let it bother you.
alittle sensitive are we? I don't discriminate. I distribute my shit evenly. But when you take the argument to post colonial America I just gotta laugh


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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby aunt betty » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:29 am

Redbeard wrote:
[quote="Olly wrote:I just wanna know why Assa gets to be the self sufficient guy who doesn't need cops and wants the people in this country to start taking responsibility for themselves and that makes him a stand up guy and model American and when I want the same thing I'm a cop hating anarchist who needs to go learn more facts?


I don't discriminate. " I distribute my shit evenly. "


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Three kinds of ppl...he's an asshole.
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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Redbeard » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:29 am

assateague wrote:I get that it seems that there must be some other underlying issue. BUT. Why the need for a damn colonoscopy and three enemas? I don't care if the probable cause was "we saw him jamming a Walmart bag full of heroin in his anus". I was under the impression that someone like that would be held and his poop "observed". I have no clue what the probable cause would have to be which involved 2 digital probes, a colonscopy, 3 enemas, and a couple x-rays, but it seems more than a little unrealistic, and unnecessary. Unless they thought he had a nuclear weapon up there which was set to go off in 2 hours. 50/50[TRADE MARK SIGN]


I haven't jumped on the cops because it doesn't seem to be their fault (unless they lied on the warrant paperwork, but that's pushing the envelope too far into imagination). It's not like they took him into an alley and jammed a plunger in his ass, in which case I would be more than happy to badmouth them. But that's not what happened. The judge OK'd this process, and he's the one who should be at fault. Like I said, I'd be curious to hear exactly what it would take to OK this sort of thing over just holding him and sifting his poop. I don't get the "urgency".

As far as enforcing laws, I'm fine with that. It's not the cops I have a problem with when it comes to being allowed to protect myself, it's the legislators and lawyers who propagate the idea that if I do so I'm wrong. While I'm not a fan at all of the changing mindset of most police departments, I've never ever been told by a cop not to defend myself. Quite the contrary. It's the prosecutors, judges, and legislatures that are the problem there. I would like to see a little more thinking and a little less "just following orders/doing my job", though. The police aren't the military, and I'm not sure when it came to be that an awful lot of them think of themselves as such. When I see a county sheriff here with someone pulled over for speeding, and they're standing there dressed like a damn Navy SEAL, there's going to be problems.
here's your answer Olly


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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Redbeard » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:30 am

Laguna Madre wrote:First of all if the incident went down the way the article said it did the guy will be a multi- millionaire and the judge who signed the warrant should have to undergo the same procedure. Not sure what probable cause is in New Mexico but a Texas judge would laugh you out of his courtroom if you requested a warrant for a cavity search and your only PC was the way someone was standing. Even our Justice's of the Peace wouldn't sign that.

I highly suspect there is more to the story than what is being represented by the media and the guys attorney. I have been on many scenes (NOT CAVITY SEARCHES-I WOULD NEVER BE A PART OF THAT) then read the news account the following day and was appalled at how the media reported it. Wasn't even close to accurately presenting the facts of the case.

That being said I foresee some type of legislation being enacted that would require only district judges being able to sign search warrants for body cavities and the standard of probably cause to justify the warrant should be extremely high. Why some police will go through all that trouble for user amounts of dope is mind boggling to me. If the guy had a murder weapon shoved up there then so be it but a couple of joints. Come on.
Boot and I have already tried to convey this but no one seems to wanna hear it


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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:55 am

Redbeard wrote:alittle sensitive are we? I don't discriminate. I distribute my shit evenly. But when you take the argument to post colonial America I just gotta laugh


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i'm hardly sensitive Red, but you do discriminate against several members of this board. feel free to disagree with my or others ideas, but you usually just turn the conversation into trolling and childish antics. I've seen you do it time and again.

And i told you why i chose post colonial America as my example.
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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby FlintRiverFowler » Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:01 am

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
Redbeard wrote:alittle sensitive are we? I don't discriminate. I distribute my shit evenly. But when you take the argument to post colonial America I just gotta laugh


#tazincali

I used to do the kind of shit assbeard does online.. Except it was in real life, say something that is true, rude, and offensive and then act like I was kidding. Hahahaha. But I really wasn't. It was hilarious. I was like 17 though.

i'm hardly sensitive Red, but you do discriminate against several members of this board. feel free to disagree with my or others ideas, but you usually just turn the conversation into trolling and childish antics. I've seen you do it time and again.

And i told you why i chose post colonial America as my example.



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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby aunt betty » Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:08 am

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
Redbeard wrote:alittle sensitive are we? I don't discriminate. I distribute my shit evenly. But when you take the argument to post colonial America I just gotta laugh


#tazincali


i'm hardly sensitive Red, but you do discriminate against several members of this board. feel free to disagree with my or others ideas, but you usually just turn the conversation into trolling and childish antics. I've seen you do it time and again.

And i told you why i chose post colonial America as my example.

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Re: This stuff scares me.

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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Redbeard » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:01 am

(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
Redbeard wrote:alittle sensitive are we? I don't discriminate. I distribute my shit evenly. But when you take the argument to post colonial America I just gotta laugh


#tazincali


i'm hardly sensitive Red, but you do discriminate against several members of this board. feel free to disagree with my or others ideas, but you usually just turn the conversation into trolling and childish antics. I've seen you do it time and again.

And i told you why i chose post colonial America as my example.
listen kid someday when you grow up, you'll leave that cave of yours and walk outta the hills. And you'll have to learn how to live with and work with grown men. It's a harsh world brother and if ya can't hack it I'd suggest you return to your cave and stay in college for life


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Re: This stuff scares me.

Postby Redbeard » Wed Nov 06, 2013 11:03 am

FlintRiverFowler wrote:
(MT)Montanafowler wrote:
Redbeard wrote:alittle sensitive are we? I don't discriminate. I distribute my shit evenly. But when you take the argument to post colonial America I just gotta laugh


#tazincali

I used to do the kind of shit assbeard does online.. Except it was in real life, say something that is true, rude, and offensive and then act like I was kidding. Hahahaha. But I really wasn't. It was hilarious. I was like 17 though.

i'm hardly sensitive Red, but you do discriminate against several members of this board. feel free to disagree with my or others ideas, but you usually just turn the conversation into trolling and childish antics. I've seen you do it time and again.

And i told you why i chose post colonial America as my example.



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