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Small engine help

Postby Bulldog0156 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:04 pm

Guys, I could use a little help with the ice auger. There is a wind vane which connects to the throttle plate. The wind vane keeps the throttle plate closed at idle and rotates out of the way when the gas is applied.

Does the throttle plate need to be slightly open when the wind vane is in the "closed" position? As I have it right now, the throttle is as closed as it can go when the wind vane is in the closed position. It doesn't really want to idle: it will for a few seconds if I play with the choke, but it is not idling at a high enough speed to stay running. Therefore, I am guessing that I need to have the throttle plate slightly open when the wind vane is in the closed position. Anyone know small engines?
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Re: Small engine help

Postby aunt betty » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:08 pm

Might try pissing on it...can't hurt, might help. :)
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Re: Small engine help

Postby NuffDaddy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:07 pm

Definitely piss on it
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Re: Small engine help

Postby NuffDaddy » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:09 pm

Not sure if I completely understand what your saying, but you do need to have the throttle slightly open to idle when you aren't touching anything.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby rebelp74 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:13 pm

Best I got is move outta the ice, problem eliminated.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby 3legged_lab » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:14 pm

Did ya try pissing on it?
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Re: Small engine help

Postby assateague » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:23 pm

Sound advice here.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Bulldog0156 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:47 pm

Do you guys honestly think I would come here for advice without first pissing on it? It worked for a little bit, but I'm gonna need a steady stream to keep it going and I have a pretty small bladder. Gonna have to try something else I'm afraid.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby 3legged_lab » Tue Dec 31, 2013 10:32 pm

Bulldog0156 wrote:Do you guys honestly think I would come here for advice without first pissing on it? It worked for a little bit, but I'm gonna need a steady stream to keep it going and I have a pretty small bladder. Gonna have to try something else I'm afraid.

Have Dan do it, it should run like a spotted-butt ape.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby RonE » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:50 am

You don't need to piss on it...............Call all your friends, form a circle and then all of you piss on it..........If it doesn't work then, fuck it, throw it away and never go near ice again.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby jehler » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:51 am

Wind vane?
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Re: Small engine help

Postby NuffDaddy » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:53 am

jehler wrote:Wind vane?

That's where he lost me.
I have one in my barn...don't think there is one in the auger though.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby 3legged_lab » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:56 am

jehler wrote:Wind vane?

It tells you which direction the wind is blowing
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Re: Small engine help

Postby jehler » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:58 am

3legged_lab wrote:
jehler wrote:Wind vane?

It tells you which direction the wind is blowing
even the winds of mirth?
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Re: Small engine help

Postby 3legged_lab » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:03 am

jehler wrote:
3legged_lab wrote:
jehler wrote:Wind vane?

It tells you which direction the wind is blowing
even the winds of mirth?

Especially
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Goldfish » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:01 am

I'm assuming the wind vane is the throttle butterfly?

If that's the case, it should be open ever so slightly. There should be a screw to adjust where it sits at idle. On my dads auger it was on the top and literally just stopped how far back the lever outside the carb moved.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Bulldog0156 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:11 am

I found a service manual online.

https://docs.google.com/gview?url=http: ... hrome=true

Still haven't gotten it working. I'm fucking pissed.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Bufflehead » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:14 am

Did you take apart the carb an clean it?
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Bufflehead » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:15 am

Also it could be a vacuum leak between the carb and motor.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Bulldog0156 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:49 am

Brand new carb. I paid to have it fixed locally because I didn't want to deal with it. It did not get fixed, the guy made it run but it only runs at speeds of "wide open" and "raped ape." I really don't want it over-rev and explode.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Bulldog0156 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:50 am

To be honest, I'm pretty sure he put the wrong carb on it.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby (MT)Montanafowler » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:57 am

Bulldog0156 wrote:To be honest, I'm pretty sure he put the wrong carb on it.


kinda what i'm thinking as well.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby OGblackcloud » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:00 am

Could be the gasket
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Re: Small engine help

Postby ea oneal » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:14 am

if the wind vane you speak of is by the flyweel it,s a governor and that may be why it,s over revving
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Bulldog0156 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:22 am

ea oneal wrote:if the wind vane you speak of is by the flyweel it,s a governor and that may be why it,s over revving

Correct. The guy at the shop took it off "because it ran better without it." We clearly have different ideas of what running better is.

I had to replace the wind vane once before and I remember it being really easy. Now I can't figure out the proper position of it which is leading me to believe I am missing a crucial part.
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Bulldog0156 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:05 pm

Well, I've got it semi-running right now. I think I might be able to get this figured out yet. It'd be easier if I knew exactly what the carb was so I know where the adjustment screws are. :?
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Goldfish » Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:00 pm

Got a picture?
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Re: Small engine help

Postby Bufflehead » Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:59 pm

OGblackcloud wrote:Could be the gasket

This is what I was talking about when I said vacuum leak.


If you can get it to run long enough to spray starting fluid on the carb around the gasket, it should rev up if its a vacuum leak. It doesn't take much for it to run like shit.

this the gasket between the back of the carb and the motor, not the one on the front.
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