assateague wrote:I think most masons seemed to use "8-9-10" and call it good. "The carpenters'll get it squared up. Never mind the sill plate is only on by an inch in one corner, and hanging over 4 inches on another

I have been, or worked for general contractors my whole after-high school life pretty much.
Got lucky and almost all of my other trades ppl have taught me enough about what they do...so we're not fucking each other and did great work
I've heard that it's incredibly stupid to fuck around with a crazy man's head.