3geese4me wrote:Makes it really hard to stay in. It really does.
AKPirate wrote:3geese4me wrote:Makes it really hard to stay in. It really does.
I have seen it before, they ask to cut personnel costs, they don't get it and they get additional unprogrammed funds added. Try not to let the political maneuvering get to you.
assateague wrote:How about stopping no-bid contracts? How about only allowing 5% cost overruns instead of allowing 100-150% overruns on these no-bid contracts? So much waste, and they want to save money by reducing pay and benefits. Easy for an O-9 making $180K a year to say this shit.
3geese4me wrote:assateague wrote:How about stopping no-bid contracts? How about only allowing 5% cost overruns instead of allowing 100-150% overruns on these no-bid contracts? So much waste, and they want to save money by reducing pay and benefits. Easy for an O-9 making $180K a year to say this shit.
Yep an O-9 with 30 years has a base pay of $12K. I am an E-6 with a little over 10 years and I have a base pay of $3400.
3geese4me wrote:assateague wrote:How about stopping no-bid contracts? How about only allowing 5% cost overruns instead of allowing 100-150% overruns on these no-bid contracts? So much waste, and they want to save money by reducing pay and benefits. Easy for an O-9 making $180K a year to say this shit.
Yep an O-9 with 30 years has a base pay of $12K. I am an E-6 with a little over 10 years and I have a base pay of $3400.
Goldfish wrote:3geese4me wrote:assateague wrote:How about stopping no-bid contracts? How about only allowing 5% cost overruns instead of allowing 100-150% overruns on these no-bid contracts? So much waste, and they want to save money by reducing pay and benefits. Easy for an O-9 making $180K a year to say this shit.
Yep an O-9 with 30 years has a base pay of $12K. I am an E-6 with a little over 10 years and I have a base pay of $3400.
What???
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Feelin' Fowl wrote:Goldfish wrote:3geese4me wrote:assateague wrote:How about stopping no-bid contracts? How about only allowing 5% cost overruns instead of allowing 100-150% overruns on these no-bid contracts? So much waste, and they want to save money by reducing pay and benefits. Easy for an O-9 making $180K a year to say this shit.
Yep an O-9 with 30 years has a base pay of $12K. I am an E-6 with a little over 10 years and I have a base pay of $3400.
What???
A month?
Feelin' Fowl wrote:Goldfish wrote:3geese4me wrote:assateague wrote:How about stopping no-bid contracts? How about only allowing 5% cost overruns instead of allowing 100-150% overruns on these no-bid contracts? So much waste, and they want to save money by reducing pay and benefits. Easy for an O-9 making $180K a year to say this shit.
Yep an O-9 with 30 years has a base pay of $12K. I am an E-6 with a little over 10 years and I have a base pay of $3400.
What???
A month?
3geese4me wrote:The officer/enlisted pay scale difference is a tad out of tolerance.
assateague wrote:I guess what I mean is, 50 years ago there was a pretty substantial difference between the two, but not so much anymore. For example, when I was in, I was responsible for managing 2 12 soldier interrogation teams. I had a specific job, with specialized training, a bachelor's degree, and a year and a half of language school. My base pay was $1,200 a month. A second lieutenant, with a bachelor's degree, no specialized training, and a superficial knowledge of MI skills, who responsible for managing the three of us received about $1,600. Silly.
Eric Haynes wrote:I'd say being in charge of 20k people is far more responsibility than anything of an E6 in any general career field.
Eric Haynes wrote:I'd say being in charge of 20k people is far more responsibility than anything of an E6 in any general career field.
assateague wrote:I guess what I mean is, 50 years ago there was a pretty substantial difference between the two, but not so much anymore. For example, when I was in, I was responsible for managing 2 12 soldier interrogation teams. I had a specific job, with specialized training, a bachelor's degree, and a year and a half of language school. My base pay was $1,200 a month. A second lieutenant, with a bachelor's degree, no specialized training, and a superficial knowledge of MI skills, who responsible for managing the three of us received about $1,600. Silly.
Eric Haynes wrote:assateague wrote:I guess what I mean is, 50 years ago there was a pretty substantial difference between the two, but not so much anymore. For example, when I was in, I was responsible for managing 2 12 soldier interrogation teams. I had a specific job, with specialized training, a bachelor's degree, and a year and a half of language school. My base pay was $1,200 a month. A second lieutenant, with a bachelor's degree, no specialized training, and a superficial knowledge of MI skills, who responsible for managing the three of us received about $1,600. Silly.
Lts are funny but everyone has to start somewhere.
Olly wrote:Eric Haynes wrote:I'd say being in charge of 20k people is far more responsibility than anything of an E6 in any general career field.
Aren't you in the military? That officer doesn't personally manage 20k people. Chain of command.
3geese4me wrote:assateague wrote:I guess what I mean is, 50 years ago there was a pretty substantial difference between the two, but not so much anymore. For example, when I was in, I was responsible for managing 2 12 soldier interrogation teams. I had a specific job, with specialized training, a bachelor's degree, and a year and a half of language school. My base pay was $1,200 a month. A second lieutenant, with a bachelor's degree, no specialized training, and a superficial knowledge of MI skills, who responsible for managing the three of us received about $1,600. Silly.
And I bet whenever there was an issue you made the decision for the LT. He just implemented what you told him needed to be done.
3geese4me wrote:I enjoy telling them that I out rank them because I've been promoted more times. The guys that know their place laugh about it, but every once in awhile a butt hurt lt will get all fussy.
Olly wrote:Feelin' Fowl wrote:Goldfish wrote:3geese4me wrote:assateague wrote:How about stopping no-bid contracts? How about only allowing 5% cost overruns instead of allowing 100-150% overruns on these no-bid contracts? So much waste, and they want to save money by reducing pay and benefits. Easy for an O-9 making $180K a year to say this shit.
Yep an O-9 with 30 years has a base pay of $12K. I am an E-6 with a little over 10 years and I have a base pay of $3400.
What???
A month?
Yes.
waterfowlman wrote:What I enjoyed most about working with MACV SOG was the respect for experience and how little rank actually meant.
I especially remember one briefing for a cross border recon mission a major from intelligence was giving us when an E-5 buck sgt with many of these missions under his belt spoke up and told the officer how fucked up the mission he just laid out for us was. He didn't bat an eye and just said "okay please explain what's wrong with it"
The sgt. when on to explain in great detail a much better way to execute the mission, we all concured and the major was fine with the changes.
That officer gained an enormous amount of respect from his men that day.
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