Poison Help

[RonE]

If those rats are fucking with you domicile does that make them "domestic" rats? Perhaps that is the problem, or maybe you aren't charging yourself enough for your services.

[assateague]

I got in an argument with myself when I brought up the fee, cussed myself, and threw me off my property.

[DeadEye_Dan]

Sometimes it's better to bite the bullet and hire a professional. I'm sure professional you is getting a good laugh at the homeowner hijinx you've gone through trying to catch a few rats

[GadwallGetter530]

With traps and every thing else jim has tried. I don't know what all else a pro could pull out of his bag of tricks to kill the rats.

[DeadEye_Dan]

Those are secrets worth paying a professional tolearn

[GadwallGetter530]

Those are secrets worth paying a professional tolearn

true that.

[RonE]

Jim, you could just go and get a tattoo on your chest that says:



OWNED
By the rats

[3legged_lab]

Jim, you could just go and get a tattoo on your chest that says:



OWNED
By the rats

In Ron's own words: "damn! I wouldn't slam the shit house door that hard"

[assateague]

It's a marathon, not a sprint. I'm pacing myself.

[Feelin' Fowl]

I'll ask my IPM guy on Tuesday. If anyone knows, that guy will.

He didn't come in today. I should see him tomorrow...

[assateague]

Ok. No hurry. I'm lulling them into a false sense of security.


For the record, I got two more groundhogs this morning.

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[RonE]

Ok. No hurry. I'm lulling them into a false sense of security.


For the record, I got two more groundhogs this morning.

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So you caught two of something whose sole purpose in life is to come out of it's den on February 2nd so that people can see if it has a shadow or not. Not a very motivated or intelligent creature if you ask me. Now rats on the other hand............

[assateague]

Yes, but if you notice, I arranged to catch them while they were going IN to the den.

And that, my friend, requires extraordinary skill and patience. I learned it at a Shao Lin temple.

[jehler]

Jim do you use that electric fence "tape" wire for your horses or have any on hand? You know the fence that looks like ribbon but has the little wires all woven in to connect to your electric fence

[R. Chapman]

What would happen if you set off a bunch of insect foggers in there. I mean when you set them off you're supposed to get the hell out and stay out for a while. Seems like it would fuck some rats up if its harmful to humans. I'd say set about 8-10 foggers off in there and then wait to see if the rats come bailing out. Shoot or club them as they come out.

Sounds like fun.

[RonE]

Yes, but if you notice, I arranged to catch them while they were going IN to the den.

And that, my friend, requires extraordinary skill and patience. I learned it at a Shao Lin temple.

Ah! Grasshopper, Zen and the art of rat catching.

[Feelin' Fowl]

Here's the low down from a professional...

The amount of time a poison stays poisonous is classified in generations. A 1st generation rodenticide loses it's lethality after the first generation eats it. (this is what you want - also called a multi feed)

A 3rd generation rodenticide would stay lethal for the 3 animals (Rat eats poison & gets poisoned/dies. 2nd rat eats dead poisoned rat & also gets poisoned/dies. 3rd animal eats 2nd dead rat, and is poisoned/dies). - Bad news for dogs that eat poisoned rats...

Mice get their water from the food they eat, but rats need additional water (see recommended poison). He said it sounds like you have a nervous/cautions rat, and suggested trying a few things...not necessarily in order.

1. Change the surroundings - move the lawnmower, or add 2x4s so the rat has to change it's course. Look for black or tan grease spots for it's path.
2. Set up your traps, but don't set them. Let the rat get comfortable with the traps. When she's comfortable (has been feeding), you set them to get her.
3. Try glue boards.
4. Use "First Strike Rodenticide". It had the moisture rats need, and it's supposed to be irresistible to rats. If Dutch ate half of the bucket he'd bee fine. If he ate a dead/poisoned rat he'd be fine.

If you use a poison/rodenticide make sure it's a first generation or multi feed (NOT 3rd generation), and you/Dutch/Dingo should be fine.

If the dogs eat any poison, give them vitamin K, and get them to a vet to be safe.

[AKPirate]

We had a dog eat the green granule poison and we gave it capfuls of hydrogen peroxide and straight to the vet. The dog will throw up several times. The vet also put charcoal into the dog. It fucked the dog up a couple of days.

[Feelin' Fowl]

My guy said a co-worker's 40# dog ate half of a bucket of the first strike, and didn't have an issue.

[waterfowlman]

Screw that poison, there's more satisfaction killing them fuckers in traps.

[AKPirate]

My guy said a co-worker's 40# dog ate half of a bucket of the first strike, and didn't have an issue.

I have no idea what generation our dog ate but no long term stuff happened to him

[Feelin' Fowl]

Screw that poison, there's more satisfaction killing them fuckers in traps.

Maybe we should all chip in to hire a professional to trap it while AT has the malaria.

[waterfowlman]

Screw that poison, there's more satisfaction killing them fuckers in traps.

Maybe we should all chip in to hire a professional to trap it while AT has the malaria.

Doubt AT would allow him on the property.

[3legged_lab]

Screw that poison, there's more satisfaction killing them fuckers in traps.

Maybe we should all chip in to hire a professional to trap it while AT has the malaria.

He would never pop the cash to hire a trapper, out of respect I wont chip in on one either.

[Feelin' Fowl]

Screw that poison, there's more satisfaction killing them fuckers in traps.

Maybe we should all chip in to hire a professional to trap it while AT has the malaria.

Doubt AT would allow him on the property.

That's why we sneak him in while AT's out with the malaria.

You're no fun, tripod!

[Feelin' Fowl]

My guess is this rat is at least 51% pintail...

[assateague]