Vehicle Should Be A House

[assateague]

Just to be clear before I answer, you're off of the "federal preemption" kick now, right?

No, now answer my question.

Nigga, please.

But I will answer, just to be clear.


It already happens. If I drive to Texas, do I have to amend my vehicle insurance so that it meets the minimum requirements of each state I drive through, or does my vehicle fall under the law of the state it's registered in? If a guy from Florida drives through MD, does he have to stop and remove his window tint before entering, or is it covered by the law where his vehicle is registered? Before driving through PA, does everyone for other states have to stop and have their emissions checked, so they can get their window sticker? Why was I allowed to drive through NJ when I was 16 in a MD car with a MD license, even though a NJ resident has to be 17 to get a license?




Why are the contents of the car treated any differently than these things?

[assateague]

Hahahahaha just do whatever MT did in his sourdough flapjack thread

That's EXACTLY the one I was thinking of too

[3legged_lab]

Oh shit, way to go. Got Olly going on federal govt/personal rights infringement.

Just tell him you follow your own rule, and only your own rule assa.

[Olly]

Oh shit, way to go. Got Olly going on federal govt/personal rights infringement.

Just tell him you follow your own rule, and only your own rule assa.

Haha no. Its just fun to pick at Assa because in the order of who thinks they are always right on WFF it goes Assa then me

[Redbeard]

The cop that pulls you over, of course. Still not sure how the fed govt got insinuated into what I was saying at all.

so I would be required to know the gun laws of all the other states?

Yep. Although I'm pretty sure that your smart phone works in your patrol car Would take about a 30 second Google search.

when the state pays my cell phone bill I'll use it to look up Maryland gun laws

[Redbeard]

The cop that pulls you over, of course. Still not sure how the fed govt got insinuated into what I was saying at all.

so I would be required to know the gun laws of all the other states?

Yep. Although I'm pretty sure that your smart phone works in your patrol car Would take about a 30 second Google search.

I think enforcing a google law might be a bad idea

"your honor prior to citing Mr Lopez, I confirmed Maryland's gun laws via google"

[RonE]

The cop that pulls you over, of course. Still not sure how the fed govt got insinuated into what I was saying at all.

You are suggesting that States Rights should be overridden and only the Fed's can do that across the board.

[RonE]

The cop that pulls you over, of course. Still not sure how the fed govt got insinuated into what I was saying at all.

You are suggesting that States Rights should be overridden and only the Fed's can do that across the board.

On the other hand, I believe that all states allow vehicles from out of state to drive on their roads so long as they are licensed. I also believe that all states require that vehicles conform to their own vehicle regulations including state licensing if you become a resident. (you can't live in one state and license your vehicle in another). As for the insurance requirements between states, that is up to your insurance company. My proof of insurance card does not state policy limits.

Jim knows these things and knows that there would have to be federal intervention with regards to having a gun in your car and crossing state lines and not being held to the state requirements... I think there is something about this in the 68GCA.

Because I think Jim is a smart guy I am going to have to expose this thread as a troll.

[Feelin' Fowl]

Oh shit, way to go. Got Olly going on federal govt/personal rights infringement.

Just tell him you follow your own rule, and only your own rule assa.

Haha no. Its just fun to pick at Assa because in the order of who thinks they are always right on WFF it goes Assa then me

I vote that it's a tie.

[assateague]

The cop that pulls you over, of course. Still not sure how the fed govt got insinuated into what I was saying at all.

You are suggesting that States Rights should be overridden and only the Fed's can do that across the board.

On the other hand, I believe that all states allow vehicles from out of state to drive on their roads so long as they are licensed. I also believe that all states require that vehicles conform to their own vehicle regulations including state licensing if you become a resident. (you can't live in one state and license your vehicle in another). As for the insurance requirements between states, that is up to your insurance company. My proof of insurance card does not state policy limits.

Jim knows these things and knows that there would have to be federal intervention with regards to having a gun in your car and crossing state lines and not being held to the state requirements... I think there is something about this in the 68GCA.

Because I think Jim is a smart guy I am going to have to expose this thread as a troll.

There absolutely would not have to be federal intervention. Is there federal intervention which allows a 16 year old MD driver to drive in NJ? Is there federal intervention which says "if your coverage isn't printed on your card, you may not be cited in OH, UT, VA, or DE, even though they require it"? Of course not.

It's not a troll. I have yet to hear a valid reason why the vehicle itself is only subject to the laws of the state its registered in, but the contents are subject to the laws of whatever state it happens to be in. That's just silly.

[banknote]

What happens if the contents of your vehicle are against the law in your home state, but not in the state you're visiting?

[3legged_lab]

What happens if the contents of your vehicle are against the law in your home state, but not in the state you're visiting?

Also silly.

[assateague]

What happens if the contents of your vehicle are against the law in your home state, but not in the state you're visiting?

Then you get busted.

[AKPirate]

What happens if the contents of your vehicle are against the law in your home state, but not in the state you're visiting?

Also silly.

Vinny transports menorahs' across state boundaries all the time

[banknote]

What happens if the contents of your vehicle are against the law in your home state, but not in the state you're visiting?

Then you get busted.

Damn, that sucks.

[banknote]

What happens if the contents of your vehicle are against the law in your home state, but not in the state you're visiting?

Also silly.

Vinny transports menorahs' across state boundaries all the time

In the trunk?

[AKPirate]

What happens if the contents of your vehicle are against the law in your home state, but not in the state you're visiting?

Also silly.

Vinny transports menorahs' across state boundaries all the time

In the trunk?

and under his robes

[Olly]

What happens if the contents of your vehicle are against the law in your home state, but not in the state you're visiting?

Then you get busted.

You're idea to me is flawed for one giant reason. The only way this would work is if the visiting state made a state to state agreement with the parent state to allow the parents states residents to basically ignore their laws and follow the parents states while passing through. This doesn't make any sense because if the visiting state would allow that they would make it legal in their state to start with.

This will never happen because the states are so different. It would never make sense for a state like NY which has proven to be so anti gun to allow me to travel through their state while following Alaska's laws. Because being anti gun is what they are all about.

[Woody]

It already happens. If I drive to Texas, do I have to amend my vehicle insurance so that it meets the minimum requirements of each state I drive through, or does my vehicle fall under the law of the state it's registered in?

MMMM... I don't think that is right... your insurance company pays out according to the state you are driving in the event of an accident.

Michigan is no fault insurance, Indiana it is not no fault. My insurance coverage changes depending on where an accident takes place. If in MI then they cover me and the other driver covers them self, if in IN the persona at fault is liable for the repairs.

[Eric Haynes]

What happens if the contents of your vehicle are against the law in your home state, but not in the state you're visiting?

Then you get busted.

You're idea to me is flawed for one giant reason. The only way this would work is if the visiting state made a state to state agreement with the parent state to allow the parents states residents to basically ignore their laws and follow the parents states while passing through. This doesn't make any sense because if the visiting state would allow that they would make it legal in their state to start with.

This will never happen because the states are so different. It would never make sense for a state like NY which has proven to be so anti gun to allow me to travel through their state while following Alaska's laws. Because being anti gun is what they are all about.

You can drive through NY with a gun, legally, as long as it isn't concealed on you(unless you have a CCL)

[Eric Haynes]

Which I thought applied anywhere as long as you are passing through. Could be wrong but last time I traveled through multiple states, that is what each state told me.

[assateague]

It already happens. If I drive to Texas, do I have to amend my vehicle insurance so that it meets the minimum requirements of each state I drive through, or does my vehicle fall under the law of the state it's registered in?

MMMM... I don't think that is right... your insurance company pays out according to the state you are driving in the event of an accident.

Michigan is no fault insurance, Indiana it is not no fault. My insurance coverage changes depending on where an accident takes place. If in MI then they cover me and the other driver covers them self, if in IN the persona at fault is liable for the repairs.

Your insurance company may do whatever they want, but you don't have to buy separate insurance. Your car must be covered per the state it's registered in. Period.

[Redbeard]

Jim I get where you're going here, but this whole idea would be a nightmare to try an enforce

[Olly]

I'm in favor of zero gun control anywhere. Just thought I'd add that.

Maybe the only form of gun control I'd be in favor of would be for someone that was found by due process to be mentally incapable of safely owning a firearm. Maybe because that could be a slippery slope in itself.

[waterfowlman]

Many states reciprocate on concealed weapon permits. Unfortunately Maryland is not one of them.
I can drive 1,100 miles from south Florida to the eastern shore of Virginia and Georgia, SC, NC and Va will all recognize my FL. CCL. If I drive 40 miles further north to Maryland.....I'm breaking the law.

[Eric Haynes]

Many states reciprocate on concealed weapon permits. Unfortunately Maryland is not one of them.
I can drive 1,100 miles from south Florida to the eastern shore of Virginia and Georgia, SC, NC and Va will all recognize my FL. CCL. If I drive 40 miles further north to Maryland.....I'm breaking the law.

But it is still legal to drive in the state with a pistol in your vehicle, as long as it isnt on you, right?

[Olly]

Many states reciprocate on concealed weapon permits. Unfortunately Maryland is not one of them.
I can drive 1,100 miles from south Florida to the eastern shore of Virginia and Georgia, SC, NC and Va will all recognize my FL. CCL. If I drive 40 miles further north to Maryland.....I'm breaking the law.

There was a bill that was trying to make CCW permits like a drivers license where it had to be recognized by any state that issued CCW permits. I think it lost traction though.

I'm not a fan of the federal govt telling a state what they have to recognize from another state. Be it a CCW permit or a simple drivers license. Should be up to the state.

[assateague]

Many states reciprocate on concealed weapon permits. Unfortunately Maryland is not one of them.
I can drive 1,100 miles from south Florida to the eastern shore of Virginia and Georgia, SC, NC and Va will all recognize my FL. CCL. If I drive 40 miles further north to Maryland.....I'm breaking the law.

But it is still legal to drive in the state with a pistol in your vehicle, as long as it isnt on you, right?

Not here. It has to be unloaded, cased, with the ammo separate from the gun, and "inconvenient" to reach, or some other crap like that. Don't remember the exact wording, but what it means is that you can't have unloaded gun, magazine, and a box of ammo in a shoebox on the passenger seat next to you.

[assateague]

Jim I get where you're going here, but this whole idea would be a nightmare to try an enforce

I do understand what you're saying about having to know all the gun laws for all 50 states, but right now the burden is on the "civilian" to know all the gun laws in all 50 states. Seems like the burden should be on the other foot, in my opinion.

[RonE]

Many states reciprocate on concealed weapon permits. Unfortunately Maryland is not one of them.
I can drive 1,100 miles from south Florida to the eastern shore of Virginia and Georgia, SC, NC and Va will all recognize my FL. CCL. If I drive 40 miles further north to Maryland.....I'm breaking the law.

But it is still legal to drive in the state with a pistol in your vehicle, as long as it isnt on you, right?

Not here. It has to be unloaded, cased, with the ammo separate from the gun, and "inconvenient" to reach, or some other crap like that. Don't remember the exact wording, but what it means is that you can't have unloaded gun, magazine, and a box of ammo in a shoebox on the passenger seat next to you.

Sounds like California.......and that is fucked up!