Goose hunting with #4

by **birdman** » Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:47 am

I went hunting on opening day using up some of last years HeviShot. It was 3 inch number 4, and at 45 yards it killed the geese stone dead. That seems like small shot but it worked really well for the ducks and geese. We ended up with 19 ducks and 6 geese-there were three of us hunting. We had a great day.

by **capt1972** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:52 pm

by **jehler** » Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:08 pm

4 hevi is perfect for big geese, the 6's are great for ducks. If you can find fives perfect all around load if its a mixed bag kinda hunt

by **huntfishnv** » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:17 am

Brought down a ten pound goose today from about thirty yards with 2 3/4 3 steel shot. Only had to hit it with three shots in the air and a water swat to kill it. :lol:

I think if you're going to use shot size that high make sure its hevi-shot like you were saying.

by **Baysider** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:18 am

The guys around here during the lead days shot #4 for goose and ducks. I dont see why it would be any different for hevi shot. Ive used #4 steel and killed plenty of decoying geese. Thick pattern and head shots over decoys and it doesnt take a large pellet.

by **DeadEye_Dan** » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:22 pm

Hevi 4s for geese?? That's overkill.

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by **hunter1** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:22 pm

I agree! HeviShot #4 is a great goose load. I use them occasionally and they are effective way out there on the big honkers. I also like them because they work on the ducks if I am hunting both.

by **Legband** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:42 pm

Wow I realize this is a older thread but I couldn't believe what I was reading.
Finally someone else who shoots heavy # 4s for geese.
I have been called everything but sane for even suggesting it.
About 8 years ago I ran out of BB sized loads and couldn't find anything in tungsten or heavy loads.
While I was on the phone with cabelas the girl told me they were out of BB , #1 , #2 .
But that they were closing out their #4 shot federal tungsten loads.
No thanks I said , one moment sir we have a great price on these loads.
No thanks again I replied , they were 29.00 a box they are on close out for 14.00
I'll take them I said , on our first hunt we were shredding the geese.
The small pellet actually has better penetration like a small round on a bullet proof vest.
It's all we shoot now.
Any way I'm still surprised someone else agrees.

by **Legband** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:25 pm

DeadEye_Dan wrote:Hevi 4s for geese?? That's overkill.

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Great pic

by **DeadEye_Dan** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:59 pm

If I could afford it, I'd shoot nothing but HTL alternatives in 5's or 6's.

We loaded up some TSS 9's for the kids to run through their 20ga's at turkey's. One of the boys body swatted a jake at 45 yards and the only pellets recovered were caught under the skin on the off-side after passing through both breasts. With a #9. It's crazy stuff.

by **NuffDaddy** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:08 pm

I was using steel 3s for ducks all season and it killed any goose that came by out to 40 yards no problem. I've never used hevi shot, but I can see how 4s would wreck the geese.

by **Legband** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:31 pm

NuffDaddy wrote:I was using steel 3s for ducks all season and it killed any goose that came by out to 40 yards no problem. I've never used hevi shot, but I can see how 4s would wreck the geese.

I think they are deadly.

by **DeadEye_Dan** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:35 pm

Keep it on topic.

by **Bootlipkiller** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 4:49 pm

Wierd

by **assateague** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:14 pm

Dan, what's a good price on TSS per pound, and if you could shoot any size, at 18gm/cm3, what size would it be?

by **AKPirate** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:16 pm

Bootlipkiller wrote:Wierd

not really, you still can't spell weird

by **Bootlipkiller** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:23 pm

That was the point of the smile

by **AKPirate** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:24 pm

Bootlipkiller wrote:That was the point of the smile

smiley, spellmaster

by **assateague** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:45 pm

by **DeadEye_Dan** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:24 pm

assateague wrote:Dan, what's a good price on TSS per pound, and if you could shoot any size, at 18gm/cm3, what size would it be?

Last I got was $48/lb - that's why I've reserved it for 11/16oz loads for the kids.

I could never afford to shoot it as a general purpose shot, hence the decision to go with 9s and a dense pattern for turkey's out to 40.

Even at that, I'd go no smaller than 7s for geese and such.

by **assateague** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:09 pm

Smaller in shot size, or smaller in number? And what about ducks- #11?

The reason I ask is my boss is in mainland China now, and is good friends with the guy who runs AliBaba. Has contacts all over the industrial manufacturing sweatshops from a project we did last year, and I'm asking him to see what he can get, and he asked me for sizes in mm. Maybe get a few pounds as "free samples", I don't know. Personally, I would be interested in duck load, but we'll see.

by **Flightstopper** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:12 pm

assateague wrote:Smaller in shot size, or smaller in number? And what about ducks- #11?

The reason I ask is my boss is in mainland China now, and is good friends with the guy who runs AliBaba. Has contacts all over the industrial manufacturing sweatshops from a project we did last year, and I'm asking him to see what he can get, and he asked me for sizes in mm. Maybe get a few pounds as "free samples", I don't know. Personally, I would be interested in duck load, but we'll see.

I feel we've been Assafacted??

by **assateague** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:21 pm

Nope, not this time. I would love to have a super shell, just to make sure I don't fuck up on yet another pintail. And since I'm not buying Hevi-shot, and this TSS apparently isn't even for sale, this may be the only way.

by **Flightstopper** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:24 pm

If you could get the line on it you could make serious bank.

by **DeadEye_Dan** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:29 pm

Damn the torpedoes.

Smaller in size.

2mm TSS pellets would roughly an 8-9 pellet size and give you +/- 400 pellets/oz and would have similar ballistics to 3-4 steel.

by **DeadEye_Dan** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:32 pm

assateague wrote:Nope, not this time. I would love to have a super shell, just to make sure I don't fuck up on yet another pintail. And since I'm not buying Hevi-shot, and this TSS apparently isn't even for sale, this may be the only way.

I saw some tests once where TSS 7's were passing completely through frozen mallard carcasses @ 90 yards.

by **Eric Haynes** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:43 pm

DeadEye_Dan wrote:
assateague wrote:Nope, not this time. I would love to have a super shell, just to make sure I don't fuck up on yet another pintail. And since I'm not buying Hevi-shot, and this TSS apparently isn't even for sale, this may be the only way.

I saw some tests once where TSS 7's were passing completely through frozen mallard carcasses @ 90 yards.

I can't find the video anymore but the one of the dude blistering a turkey at 45 yards with #12 shot was insane . Head was completely jello

by **assateague** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:51 pm

So what it sounds like is that this stuff really couldn't be a duck round at all.

by **Eric Haynes** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:51 pm

assateague wrote:So what it sounds like is that this stuff really couldn't be a duck round at all.

Why not? It passes completely through

by **assateague** » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:56 pm

Yeah, but if it just destroys everything as it goes through, it's going to horribly bloodshot.

Although it's kind of making me want to also get some 5mm ones, and load up some personal defense rounds, with about 40 pellets in each.