Serious Question ??

[Bowjoe]

Heres the scenario.. You and a buddy who you have been hunting with for 2 years has permission on large fields and had you sign a permission slip so you too can hunt.. Well you been hunting it for two years now land owner gives permission to a few groups of guys so getting permission is pretty easy.. Now the friendship ends .. You have permission do you still continue to hunt .. Now ok this is what is going on with me and a old friend I problly wont hunt it this year anymore but would I be wrong if I went and talked to land owner and he granted me and my son permission or would that be a dick move to the old friend or is it gloves off since friendship is over.. Now I know it can be done to me but 99% of my farmers wont grant permission to anyone else but me while Im still wanting to hunt it..so Im good there.. So whats your thought ??

[Goldfish]

How badly did the friendship end? I would probably call my ex friend and ask him about it. No reason you guys can't be civil and still not see each other or talk.

[Goldfish]

Actually, before that, who found the field? If you found it, go to the farmer and ask him about you and your boy. If he found it, unless you really want to burn him by asking the farmer about you and your boy I'd find somewhere else.

[DeadEye_Dan]

Dick move. Hunt somewhere else.

But besides that, why would you want to hunt somewhere that you'd potentially run into someone you don't like??

[Rick]

Not too many years back a friend invited me woodcock hunting and took me to what turned out to be a spot I'd hunted since the mid '80s. I've not hunted it since.

[IndianaYakFish]

If I'm understanding it right your former friend found the field and originally got permission, then brought you in on it right? If that's the case, I would say move on, especially if you've got other areas to hunt. Now if you were the one that found it, hunt it. But like mentioned above, if things ended badly with the guy and you're going to run into him out there, why bother?

If the relationship just kind of fizzled out and it didn't end badly, I too suggest talking to the guy about it.

Keep us updated.

[Olly]

I vote dick move. Even if he doesn't own the field if he was the first to get permission it's "his" field.

[Steele22]

You know it's a hard Dick move or you wouldnt have asked. What if he showed up next weekend on a field you took him too before it went south

[Woody]

Here's an interesting twist...

Does the verdict of dick move carry through if it is public land?

[Olly]

Here's an interesting twist...

Does the verdict of dick move carry through if it is public land?

I vote no. That's just because I hate people that try to claim public lands as "theirs". I don't care if you've been hunting in that one spot for 30 years if my taxes go towards that land I will use it if I get there first.

[Steele22]

Absolutely, if it's worth going back too then it's obviously a good spot and not over hunted. I hunt several public spots at home. My best spot is in the river when all local ponds freeze but is in between a bunch of shoals and all but impossible to get to. I know the farmer well that owns land across the river from this spot so we put in on him. Had a falling out a few years ago with a hunting buddy and he pulled a half hour-45 minute float trip to get in and same out. Just so happened he tried it on morning I was there. It didn't happen again. Even though it's a public river he had no idea it was there so he's not gonna hunt it now

[Rick]

Here's an interesting twist...

Does the verdict of dick move carry through if it is public land?

Spot I spoke of above is public.

[The Duck Hammer]

I'd say call the guy and see what he says. I hunt the same private pond for the majority of my hunts. A couple of years ago when the ducks we here and I was getting good numbers a friend of my brothers tagged along with us. Turns out he had mighty loose lips. Some other high school kids, not friends of mine but friends of the kid I took, decided that this should be there spot too and went around the real owner to get "permission". To say the least it's been a knockout drag out over that spot ever since to the point it isn't worth it anymore. Constant threats and shit to where I barely hunt it even though all my t's are crossed and i's are dotted to hunt there. Point is if your ex friend makes an issue of it just talking with you don't take your kid out there where he can get involved. Disputes over hunting places can get out of hand quickly and aren't worth it in the long run.

[Woody]

Absolutely, if it's worth going back too then it's obviously a good spot and not over hunted. I hunt several public spots at home. My best spot is in the river when all local ponds freeze but is in between a bunch of shoals and all but impossible to get to. I know the farmer well that owns land across the river from this spot so we put in on him. Had a falling out a few years ago with a hunting buddy and he pulled a half hour-45 minute float trip to get in and same out. Just so happened he tried it on morning I was there. It didn't happen again. Even though it's a public river he had no idea it was there so he's not gonna hunt it now

I'm sorry but that is BS, he has just as much right to it as you.

[Steele22]

No damn way. I found it I took him. How you figure??? Guess a man better not take you anywhere he likes lol

[Steele22]

I'd say call the guy and see what he says. I hunt the same private pond for the majority of my hunts. A couple of years ago when the ducks we here and I was getting good numbers a friend of my brothers tagged along with us. Turns out he had mighty loose lips. Some other high school kids, not friends of mine but friends of the kid I took, decided that this should be there spot too and went around the real owner to get "permission". To say the least it's been a knockout drag out over that spot ever since to the point it isn't worth it anymore. Constant threats and shit to where I barely hunt it even though all my t's are crossed and i's are dotted to hunt there. Point is if your ex friend makes an issue of it just talking with you don't take your kid out there where he can get involved. Disputes over hunting places can get out of hand quickly and aren't worth it in the long run.

This is exactly right. Disputes happen because people have no damn respect. Public or private. I put in my time my money to find the spots. If I take someone they're to go with me only. I would never go somewhere a friend found without them never. If everyone would follow that there'd be none of this shit

[Olly]

No damn way. I found it I took him. How you figure??? Guess a man better not take you anywhere he likes lol

You didn't "find" it. It's not like you discovered a new continent. It's public land that was surveyed a long time ago and anyone that pays their taxes and is a lawful hunter has just as much right as you to it.

If someone shows me a "hidden" spot on public land and they are my friends I will stay away in respect for the friendship not because they knew about it before I did.

[Steele22]

I found it as far as taking someone there is concerned. It might as well been a new continent. At least you agree to stay away though

[Bad17]

Man just continue to hunt it. If you have signed papers to hunt it then you have express permission from the owner. If he shows up to your other spots and does not have written permission run him off. I would let him know you plan to hunt that spot still.

[Flyway Stalker]

Private or Public, it's really almost out of your hands, if it's private it's up to the land owner to grant rights, unless you and your ex-buddy can come to an aggrement, if he found it then unfortunetly for you he should have first rights to continue hunting it. If its public, then no one has legal exclusive rights, but it would be respectful to stop hunting it if you came upon it by someone elses scouting efforts. Not an easy solution either way.

[Woody]

I found it as far as taking someone there is concerned. It might as well been a new continent. At least you agree to stay away though

I would stay away, like Olly, but it is not yours.

[Steele22]

I found it as far as taking someone there is concerned. It might as well been a new continent. At least you agree to stay away though

I would stay away, like Olly, but it is not yours.

I agree 100 percent it's not mine but if I show a man a spot and we fall out I better not catch him in there. That's as bad as dating a old buddy's ex wife WTF. All jokes aside its a respect thing and earlier you said he got as much right to it as me not that you'd stay away....

[Steele22]

If it was an easy to get to spot that got hunted a lot then no big deal really.. I still wouldn't do it but a hole that a man has hunted 10-12 years and not seen 2-3 other boats and they were floaters/jump shooters. NEGATIVE

[Goldfish]

Call down steel. If it's public, it's public. Dick move if your friend butts in, but it's still public and you can't do anything about it.

[Woody]

I found it as far as taking someone there is concerned. It might as well been a new continent. At least you agree to stay away though

I would stay away, like Olly, but it is not yours.

I agree 100 percent it's not mine but if I show a man a spot and we fall out I better not catch him in there. That's as bad as dating a old buddy's ex wife WTF. All jokes aside its a respect thing and earlier you said he got as much right to it as me not that you'd stay away....

He does legally.

[Steele22]

Legally yes, but we're not talking law. Legally you don't have to wait till buddy's ex is an ex. Is it right?? Just an example but lots of people take it that seriously when spending their time and gas finding spots. Personally I'm a lineman at the power company I work my 40 every week plus 700-1200 hrs over a year. I have 2 kids that play sports which I help coach for them and the other kids. I don't have time to scout and find spots for me and my crew then worry about someone else getting out of group and sneaking in. Gotta look at it from all angles. Is it legal yes but I wouldn't do it and don't expect it to be done. Everyone has their own opinion and I'm not trying to be a dick, it's just a touchy subject once it happens to you. Just think you find a good spot and take a buddy. Next year you don't hunt together birds are in you go to setup and he's in your hole...

[Olly]

If it was an easy to get to spot that got hunted a lot then no big deal really.. I still wouldn't do it but a hole that a man has hunted 10-12 years and not seen 2-3 other boats and they were floaters/jump shooters. NEGATIVE

I've had strangers come up on me while hunting who tried to tell me the spot I was in was theirs. They had been hunting it for X amount of years. Blah blah blah, I got there first it's public land everyone owns it. Don't want someone taking your favorite hole? Get there first.

[Steele22]

Yep so have I. Big difference in someone hunting public land vs someone you showed the spot going in on you thinking you won't bev there . Good thing People around here feel like I do about it for the most part I guess. I never said nothing about it being only mine. The question was once a falling out happens, still hunt or find your own? To each his own

[Flyway Stalker]

Legally yes, but we're not talking law. Legally you don't have to wait till buddy's ex is an ex. Is it right?? Just an example but lots of people take it that seriously when spending their time and gas finding spots. Personally I'm a lineman at the power company I work my 40 every week plus 700-1200 hrs over a year. I have 2 kids that play sports which I help coach for them and the other kids. I don't have time to scout and find spots for me and my crew then worry about someone else getting out of group and sneaking in. Gotta look at it from all angles. Is it legal yes but I wouldn't do it and don't expect it to be done. Everyone has their own opinion and I'm not trying to be a ****, it's just a touchy subject once it happens to you. Just think you find a good spot and take a buddy. Next year you don't hunt together birds are in you go to setup and he's in your hole...

I dont think anyone is saying what he is doing is morally right, just legal. I think everyone would be torked off if someone you introduced to a little honey hole showed up and took control of your spot, good friend or ex. Some people just dont care and have no morals to honor anyone elses hard work. Reminds me of the Lance Armstrong wannabees who wont ride on the tax paid bike trails and prefer to hold up traffic just because it's legal.
Heck, I'd rather he steals my wife than my hunting spot! (dont anyone tell her I said that )

[Steele22]

I understand I'm on foreign soil here so to speak, you 2 are buddies and all BUT, your debating on both sides of the fence lol. You say you wouldn't do it so you really agree with me. Then you say it's legal.. Of course it's legal and I never said otherwise. I also never said I had sole rights to any public spot, I have been beat to several spots in my day. My point was don't go to another mans spot that he took you too public or private. I'd bet most would agree if they had balls to speak up