Worst year ever!!!!

[Flightstopper]

Then you have the delusion that I am wasting them. Wind up with a pile of duck hunter sticks everyone in the group likes. Eating plenty along throughout the season.

[DeadEye_Dan]

Ah the old "I can't so no one else should be able to"

Got nothing to do with it.

If you go back and read everything I wrote, it is my own opinion and I don't expect anyone to hold themselves to the standard I have for myself.

Bullshit. You wanted to stand on your soapbox and judge anyone who shoots more than some bullshit number you made up as some kind of game hog lacking morals and conservation ethics.

If you think anyone is buying your angle, then you're the only one because it comes off as jealousy and general whiny bitchiness.

Dan, the more I read what you have to say the more I'm glad I will never hunt with you.

Ha ha, Ok - I wasn't aware it was ever an option.

[Woody]

Dan, talking to you is like talking to a child. So defensive and argumentative.

[DeadEye_Dan]

Then feel free to disregard all the advice you've PM'd me for the past 2-3 years and next time I get a text message asking where to go and kill birds, I'll tell the asker to get fucked instead of sending a map.

[Flightstopper]

Woody, You are fucking with us, right??

[Woody]

Then you have the delusion that I am wasting them. Wind up with a pile of duck hunter sticks everyone in the group likes. Eating plenty along throughout the season.

Like I said many time already, it is opinion based on my experiences and no where did I say anything that contradicts that.

But I guess when Dan is in charge, you might as well be North Korea. Keep opinions to yourself.

[Olly]

Like I said many time already, it isn't opinion based on my experiences and no where did I say anything that contradicts that.

But I guess when Dan is in charge, you might as well be North Korea. Keep opinions to yourself.

I think your opinion is valid for you and not a universal truth. I can see why some of the guys here got defensive.

[Woody]

Then feel free to disregard all the advice you've PM'd me for the past 2-3 years and next time I get a text message asking where to go and kill birds, I'll tell the asker to get fucked instead of sending a map.

Dan your help has been greatly appreciated.

You do realize you have been very insulting solely because you disagree with my opinion?

[DeadEye_Dan]

Dan, talking to you is like talking to a child. So defensive and argumentative.

Yeah. I take offense to the implied idea that anyone who kills more than some bullshit made up number of ducks is pitching them.


Tell me oh great one - eater of all that you kill - what do you do with mice you catch?

Better yet coyotes? Or coons? Or skunks?? As any one truly concerned with bird numbers should actively be killing those animals.

[Woody]

Like I said many time already, it isn't opinion based on my experiences and no where did I say anything that contradicts that.

But I guess when Dan is in charge, you might as well be North Korea. Keep opinions to yourself.

I think your opinion is valid for you and not a universal truth. I can see why some of the guys here got defensive.

So can I, and that is why I'm keep saying it is my opinion. Nothing more.

[Flightstopper]

You do whatever you want but there are gaping holes in the argument you are trying to justify yourself by.

[Olly]

So can I, and that is why I'm keep saying it is my opinion. Nothing more.

My opinions frequently come off the wrong way. So I get you.

[DeadEye_Dan]

Then you have the delusion that I am wasting them. Wind up with a pile of duck hunter sticks everyone in the group likes. Eating plenty along throughout the season.

Like I said many time already, it isn't opinion based on my experiences and no where did I say anything that contradicts that.

But I guess when Dan is in charge, you might as well be North Korea. Keep opinions to yourself.

Feel free to spout stupid opinions as gospel as much as you'd like - just be prepared to defend and support those as gospel or incur the treatment your getting now.

[DeadEye_Dan]

I hunt with a couple CO's regularly and they both consider possession limits are for when you are in the filed and end when you reach your place of permanent residence.

It's cool that think that but who gives a damn what one CO thinks? I would like to see the law be more specific. Vagueness of laws is only good for the ones in power.

This gets lost, and I agree - the down side of no gray area, is that there is no gray area.

I've had bad experiences with law enforcement, but 90% of the time the guys were trying to enforce the spirit of the (game) laws not to the letter of the law.

[Woody]

Dan, talking to you is like talking to a child. So defensive and argumentative.

Yeah. I take offense to the implied idea that anyone who kills more than some bullshit made up number of ducks is pitching them.

I'm not implying anyone is evil for doing it, just I don't think I would do it. Once again, It is my opinion and I was just stating it. If you want to argue with me about my opinion then do it, but don't come out poking and prodding a fight.

Tell me oh great one - eater of all that you kill - what do you do with mice you catch?

Better yet coyotes? Or coons? Or skunks?? As any one truly concerned with bird numbers should actively be killing those animals.

That's very good point. I've never killed any of those other than a raccoon that was growling at my dog. So that was in defense, I figured there was a chance it had rabies.

A mouse is hardly the same. I don't get enjoyment out of killing mice, and only do it to prevent disease in my home.

[Olly]

This gets lost, and I agree - the down side of no gray area, is that there is no gray area.

I've had bad experiences with law enforcement, but 90% of the time the guys were trying to enforce the spirit of the (game) laws not to the letter of the law.

We all know my feelings towards "the man" so I prefer to side with the law and not with opinion.

[Woody]

You do whatever you want but there are gaping holes in the argument you are trying to justify yourself by.

I'm not trying to justify myself. Just say why I thought that way. But I guess I'll keep my opinion to myself from now on.

[Goldfish]

I hunt with a couple CO's regularly and they both consider possession limits are for when you are in the filed and end when you reach your place of permanent residence.

It's cool that think that but who gives a damn what one CO thinks? I would like to see the law be more specific. Vagueness of laws is only good for the ones in power.

This gets lost, and I agree - the down side of no gray area, is that there is no gray area.

I've had bad experiences with law enforcement, but 90% of the time the guys were trying to enforce the spirit of the (game) laws not to the letter of the law.

While it would be nice if all law enforcement were that way, a designation of where/when possession ends would be nice. I do however fear they would be pressured from anti's and the final verdict would be "when you eat it"

[Woody]

Then you have the delusion that I am wasting them. Wind up with a pile of duck hunter sticks everyone in the group likes. Eating plenty along throughout the season.

Like I said many time already, it isn't opinion based on my experiences and no where did I say anything that contradicts that.

But I guess when Dan is in charge, you might as well be North Korea. Keep opinions to yourself.

Feel free to spout stupid opinions as gospel as much as you'd like - just be prepared to defend and support those as gospel or incur the treatment your getting now.

Where did I represent my opinion as gospel.

We are having one of the worst years I can remember in my 47 years of water fowling here in west ky and nw tn. Warm weather, no rain and very stale birds. Reminds of the old days of a 30 day season and the point system. Just now getting a little cold but only managed 3 today! Normally by now we are well over 500 birds, this year we have 76.

How many people do you hunt with to put down a number like 500?

Hunting 3-5 we've busted 1000 multiple years, especially drought years.

To be 100% honest, I see that as unnecessary and a not a good ethical practice. Conservation is supposed to be our foremost goal as hunters.

"To be 100% honest, I see that"


"I see that"


"I see that"


"I see that"

[Woody]

You wrongly took offense to something and then went on the attack, Dan.

You are right in saying you have been very willing to help me in the past and like I said it has been greatly appreciated. Nothing said further will take back what I already said to you.

Still I'll say this, maybe I'm not in a good mood or had a bad day, don't know and doesn't matter... The things you said upset me and after a few comments I insulted you back, my bad. I apologize.

[Flightstopper]

Bit of a difference in having an opinion and flat out calling people unethical for doing what they do.

[Bufflehead]

You wrongly took offense to something and then went on the attack, Dan.

You are right in saying you have been very willing to help me in the past and like I said it has been greatly appreciated. Nothing said further will take back what I already said to you.

Still I'll say this, maybe I'm not in a good mood or had a bad day, don't know and doesn't matter... The things you said upset me and after a few comments I insulted you back, my bad. I apologize.

But stating that those that kill more birds than your self imposed magic number are somehow unethical hunters isn't insulting?

[Woody]

Bit of a difference in having an opinion and flat out calling people unethical for doing what they do.

You're right, and looking back I should have stopped with unnecessary. Hind sight is 20:20.

My opinion should have been better explained and maybe no one would have gotten upset. To late now.

[Woody]

You wrongly took offense to something and then went on the attack, Dan.

You are right in saying you have been very willing to help me in the past and like I said it has been greatly appreciated. Nothing said further will take back what I already said to you.

Still I'll say this, maybe I'm not in a good mood or had a bad day, don't know and doesn't matter... The things you said upset me and after a few comments I insulted you back, my bad. I apologize.

But stating that those that kill more birds than your self imposed magic number are somehow unethical hunters isn't insulting?

You are right looking back I can see how it could be.
It is my own opinion and being that it should only matter to me and those who care about my opinion. If you opinion is different and your magic number is 10,000 then killing 500 should not effect how you feel.

[DeadEye_Dan]

Truth.

And that was my argument with the committee for 2 hen mallards when setting bag limits for MI this year.

Studies prove Hunter mortality have basically zero effect on the populations. So if you believe things to be so tenuous with the species that it cannot sustain 1 additional bird per hunter, then you should be advocating for a total season closure.

Crickets.

I truly believe MI had the suzie limit at 1 for the ticket revenue.

Maybe, but from my conversations it was more along the lines of generational beliefs along the same lines of "don't shoot does" that is rampant here in MI.
As soon as the hunters asked for it, the DNR was sort of like "finally"

[Olly]

Still I'll say this, maybe I'm not in a good mood or had a bad day, don't know and doesn't matter... The things you said upset me and after a few comments I insulted you back, my bad. I apologize.

This is what a good people looks like.

[sws002]

Truth.

And that was my argument with the committee for 2 hen mallards when setting bag limits for MI this year.

Studies prove Hunter mortality have basically zero effect on the populations. So if you believe things to be so tenuous with the species that it cannot sustain 1 additional bird per hunter, then you should be advocating for a total season closure.

Crickets.

I truly believe MI had the suzie limit at 1 for the ticket revenue.

Maybe, but from my conversations it was more along the lines of generational beliefs along the same lines of "don't shoot does" that is rampant here in MI.
As soon as the hunters asked for it, the DNR was sort of like "finally"

I could see that. I didn't hate hunting in Michigan, just Michigan hunters. Didn't have much run ins with duck hunters, but the deer hunters pissed me off to no end. I couldn't stand the "if I don't shoot it, someone else will" attitude.

[blockmaker]

I assure you every duck that I keep gets ate. I breast them and I grind it all into burger. If a game warden wants to come to my house and go through my freezer, have at it. I kill several deer a year, I grind it all up. When I see regular beef hamburger on sale I buy it and add it to the duck and deer burger. I have people at my house that thought they were eating chili with beef burger and I never say I word. The whole possession law is ridiculous, if they want to catch you they will. Do you sort your kill pile in the field by each person? Me neither but that is federal law. I know several people in west ky and nw tn that kill way more than me. A lot of what they kill is donated to shelters. I give a lot away myself. I have lots of friends and family that like duck. None of them are wasted. Killed yes, not wasted.

[Redbeard]

Hey boys! How goes the hunting? Been great here so far. Between Sam and I, we've harvested 987 birds. Over half have been canvasback and hen mallards. And we still have a month left to hunt. Well...have a nice one

[Olly]

Hey boys! How goes the hunting? Been great here so far. Between Sam and I, we've harvested 987 birds. Over half have been canvasback and hen mallards. And we still have a month left to hunt. Well...have a nice one

That's a lot of jerky, send me some.