Weston81 wrote:Bachelor degrees are like high school diplomas anymore, almost everybody has one. I work for a Fortune 100 company and I am just now finishing my degree after 11 years. From a corporate standpoint,I will tell you that not having a degree makes it almost impossible to even start at the most entry level position with my company or many large companies. With that being said, there is good money to be made and not having a degree. To be honest my degree will not necessarily help me with my current role but will help me with further advancement by having in that piece of paper. It all depends on what you want to do but leaving college as a junior 11 years ago was a huge mistake and only hindered my advancement in a corporate role. I am fortunate that that all my hard work has paid off for me, but that's not always the case. Long story short I'm still having to finish my degree but this time doing it while I have a two children and a full-time job. I will get off my soapbox now, hope this helps.
Kerrywhite30 wrote:I was considering welding, any opinions on welding postitiona and payment? It just seems terrible to just be getting out of school and jumping right into more school! But i would like a more hands on job, I'm
Not sure if I could sit behind a desk everyday, I'd like a job that varies what your doing day from
Day. I think I'd go nuts sitting
Behind a desk all
Day
Kerrywhite30 wrote:Weston81 wrote:Bachelor degrees are like high school diplomas anymore, almost everybody has one. I work for a Fortune 100 company and I am just now finishing my degree after 11 years. From a corporate standpoint,I will tell you that not having a degree makes it almost impossible to even start at the most entry level position with my company or many large companies. With that being said, there is good money to be made and not having a degree. To be honest my degree will not necessarily help me with my current role but will help me with further advancement by having in that piece of paper. It all depends on what you want to do but leaving college as a junior 11 years ago was a huge mistake and only hindered my advancement in a corporate role. I am fortunate that that all my hard work has paid off for me, but that's not always the case. Long story short I'm still having to finish my degree but this time doing it while I have a two children and a full-time job. I will get off my soapbox now, hope this helps.
One thing I'm also considering is the trade off for going to college rather than working right off the back. I could make a lot of money in the four years outside of college. But thenn, college could equal more
Money in the end. It's just a frustrating choice
Kerrywhite30 wrote:Weston81 wrote:Bachelor degrees are like high school diplomas anymore, almost everybody has one. I work for a Fortune 100 company and I am just now finishing my degree after 11 years. From a corporate standpoint,I will tell you that not having a degree makes it almost impossible to even start at the most entry level position with my company or many large companies. With that being said, there is good money to be made and not having a degree. To be honest my degree will not necessarily help me with my current role but will help me with further advancement by having in that piece of paper. It all depends on what you want to do but leaving college as a junior 11 years ago was a huge mistake and only hindered my advancement in a corporate role. I am fortunate that that all my hard work has paid off for me, but that's not always the case. Long story short I'm still having to finish my degree but this time doing it while I have a two children and a full-time job. I will get off my soapbox now, hope this helps.
One thing I'm also considering is the trade off for going to college rather than working right off the back. I could make a lot of money in the four years outside of college. But thenn, college could equal more
Money in the end. It's just a frustrating choice
AKPirate wrote:Jason is usually right but sometimes wrong
Woody wrote:In today's world, unless you start a company, you are nearly guaranteed to make more money with a degree.*
*if you can find a job
Darren wrote:Like many of you I really like the outdoors, hunting fishing etc. Mom and dad said I could do whatever I want so long as as got a degree in something first, so I chose a technical outdoor-related field, the hardest one I could try, figuring I could always try something else if I couldn't hack it. Grinded my way through LSU and got Bachelors degree in environmental engineering. Now I work for a consulting firm and thankfully the flexibility allows me to do a lot of hunting and fishing, plus the job takes me afield quite a bit, including airboats, atv's, etc. at times. I've even been paid to fish, as part of a fisheries study in the Gulf of Mexico, someone had to do it.
Shoot for as high as you think you can manage in a role that will fit what you want to do and will provide for what you need. Always remember that in the real world you've got to get up every morning and go to that job, don't get yourself in a spot where you hate/dread it. Best of luck!
AKPirate wrote:Jason is usually right but sometimes wrong
Duckdog wrote:I can tell you what this world needs...better English teachers!!!
Duckdog wrote:I can tell you what this world needs...better English teachers!!!
Olly wrote:I also think you need to ask yourself how much is money important to you? Seriously. I see so many guys get caught up in trying to make more money just so they can have what they think is a better life that they forget to live in the first place.
I'd rather make 25k a year doing something I love than 100k a year doing something that I hate. Life is so short that no amount of money is going to make me sell what little bit is mine.
sws002 wrote:Olly wrote:I also think you need to ask yourself how much is money important to you? Seriously. I see so many guys get caught up in trying to make more money just so they can have what they think is a better life that they forget to live in the first place.
I'd rather make 25k a year doing something I love than 100k a year doing something that I hate. Life is so short that no amount of money is going to make me sell what little bit is mine.
This. I work retail, and it doesn't pay much, but it has afforded me some awesome opportunities and keeps me in the hunting business without having to make my hobby my work. I'm almost 30, and have my degree in Mathematics Education, but I figured out pretty quickly that I wasn't going to be happy teaching if I couldn't do the things I love with some more regularity than a teacher's schedule would offer.
Olly wrote:sws002 wrote:Olly wrote:I also think you need to ask yourself how much is money important to you? Seriously. I see so many guys get caught up in trying to make more money just so they can have what they think is a better life that they forget to live in the first place.
I'd rather make 25k a year doing something I love than 100k a year doing something that I hate. Life is so short that no amount of money is going to make me sell what little bit is mine.
This. I work retail, and it doesn't pay much, but it has afforded me some awesome opportunities and keeps me in the hunting business without having to make my hobby my work. I'm almost 30, and have my degree in Mathematics Education, but I figured out pretty quickly that I wasn't going to be happy teaching if I couldn't do the things I love with some more regularity than a teacher's schedule would offer.
It's part of the reason why I love my career in the military, I'll never be rich in the military but in 12 years I will be retired at 40 with a pension and find some part time job that I will quit every duck hunting season.
Olly wrote:sws002 wrote:Olly wrote:I also think you need to ask yourself how much is money important to you? Seriously. I see so many guys get caught up in trying to make more money just so they can have what they think is a better life that they forget to live in the first place.
I'd rather make 25k a year doing something I love than 100k a year doing something that I hate. Life is so short that no amount of money is going to make me sell what little bit is mine.
This. I work retail, and it doesn't pay much, but it has afforded me some awesome opportunities and keeps me in the hunting business without having to make my hobby my work. I'm almost 30, and have my degree in Mathematics Education, but I figured out pretty quickly that I wasn't going to be happy teaching if I couldn't do the things I love with some more regularity than a teacher's schedule would offer.
It's part of the reason why I love my career in the military, I'll never be rich in the military but in 12 years I will be retired at 40 with a pension and find some part time job that I will quit every duck hunting season.
Olly wrote:sws002 wrote:Olly wrote:I also think you need to ask yourself how much is money important to you? Seriously. I see so many guys get caught up in trying to make more money just so they can have what they think is a better life that they forget to live in the first place.
I'd rather make 25k a year doing something I love than 100k a year doing something that I hate. Life is so short that no amount of money is going to make me sell what little bit is mine.
This. I work retail, and it doesn't pay much, but it has afforded me some awesome opportunities and keeps me in the hunting business without having to make my hobby my work. I'm almost 30, and have my degree in Mathematics Education, but I figured out pretty quickly that I wasn't going to be happy teaching if I couldn't do the things I love with some more regularity than a teacher's schedule would offer.
It's part of the reason why I love my career in the military, I'll never be rich in the military but in 12 years I will be retired at 40 with a pension and find some part time job that I will quit every duck hunting season.
Weston81 wrote:Just curious and forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what kind of health insurance will you get through the Coast Guard after you retire?
Olly wrote:Weston81 wrote:Just curious and forgive me if this is a stupid question, but what kind of health insurance will you get through the Coast Guard after you retire?
The same as all military retirees. You and your family get full medical covered by the office of the veterans affairs. The pension is 50% of the highest earned pay while serving.
Darren wrote:Like many of you I really like the outdoors, hunting fishing etc. Mom and dad said I could do whatever I want so long as as got a degree in something first, so I chose a technical outdoor-related field, the hardest one I could try, figuring I could always try something else if I couldn't hack it. Grinded my way through LSU and got Bachelors degree in environmental engineering. Now I work for a consulting firm and thankfully the flexibility allows me to do a lot of hunting and fishing, plus the job takes me afield quite a bit, including airboats, atv's, etc. at times. I've even been paid to fish, as part of a fisheries study in the Gulf of Mexico, someone had to do it.
Shoot for as high as you think you can manage in a role that will fit what you want to do and will provide for what you need. Always remember that in the real world you've got to get up every morning and go to that job, don't get yourself in a spot where you hate/dread it. Best of luck!
Olly wrote:I also think you need to ask yourself how much is money important to you? Seriously. I see so many guys get caught up in trying to make more money just so they can have what they think is a better life that they forget to live in the first place.
I'd rather make 25k a year doing something I love than 100k a year doing something that I hate. Life is so short that no amount of money is going to make me sell what little bit is mine.
Kerrywhite30 wrote:Olly wrote:I also think you need to ask yourself how much is money important to you? Seriously. I see so many guys get caught up in trying to make more money just so they can have what they think is a better life that they forget to live in the first place.
I'd rather make 25k a year doing something I love than 100k a year doing something that I hate. Life is so short that no amount of money is going to make me sell what little bit is mine.
This is amazing advice. I have just been hired at a little crappy job until I decide what it is I want to do, the pay is horrible, 8 dollars an hour, and it's a huge bummer.. But when deciding on these jobs, I have really been stressing over the whole "how much do they make a year" question.. But a job where I worked outside on te water, would be perfect. I've considered game wardens, BUT if you ask a warden, a lot of them
Say they barely have time to hunt.
Kerrywhite30 wrote:What branch of the military are you in?
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