RSI Rem hulls

[Flightstopper]

My Lyman manual shows two different Rem hulls but not sure which one RSI uses. I picked up some of the sportsman steel hulls yesterday that have the yellow .200" basewad. I'm guessing that they are the wrong ones. Also all but one of those hulls had cracks at vertically at the crimps. Is that what they consider a blown crimp or just a crappy hull that needs to be tossed?

[jehler]

Remington has like 53 different hulls, why I avoid them, cannon knows them like the back of his hand though, he will know

[jehler]

I pitch the cracked crimps, picky bastard though not sure what others do

[Flightstopper]

Thanks man.

Cannon where you be honky???

[jarbo03]

I'm no expert, but I like the green hulls with white plastic basewad and used for steel from the factory. You get used to the way a load fits, if anything is different the hull gets pitched, along with cracked crimps. I do not use them in loads pushing the pressure limits either.

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[Flightstopper]

What I'm trying to figure out is what factory ammo I can have buddies shoot or look for to reload. I picked up some of the federal blue box hulls with paper base wad yesterday as well. I would prefer to stay away from the paper base wads for now at least. Don't like the thought of water getting into them bad enough to mess up the load and just avoid it

[Flightstopper]

I'm no expert, but I like the green hulls with white plastic basewad and used for steel from the factory. You get used to the way a load fits, if anything is different the hull gets pitched, along with cracked crimps. I do not use them in loads pushing the pressure limits either.

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What factory box is that?


Just answered my own question

[jarbo03]

3" nitro steel. The lead hulls and old hevi-shot seem to have more variation in hulls they used.

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[Flightstopper]

I'm no expert, but I like the green hulls with white plastic basewad and used for steel from the factory. You get used to the way a load fits, if anything is different the hull gets pitched, along with cracked crimps. I do not use them in loads pushing the pressure limits either.

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Which load you like in these hulls? I hear a lot for RSI 75

[jehler]

Have them shoot Kent's

[jarbo03]

Sorry, I meant yellow platic basewad. 75 hss been a good load, I prefer 84 myself, and I load 88 with #2 when I am hunting where both ducks and geese are likely. To avoid confusion, buy sone Cheddite hulls or keep your buddies 3" Kent hulls, load #s 131, 132, and 133, you can't go wrong, 132 has been my favorite.

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[dog walker]

Just a heads up with RSI 131 I found that I had to apply 80-90 pounds of wad pressure to keep the top of the wad from getting folded up with/under the crimp.

I use the yellow basewads remingtons also. What I have seen,not saying much, is that with hulls that have a split or crack at the top of the hull can lead to a complete rip down the side of the hull when reloaded and fired again. Lesson learned

[jarbo03]

Thats s good point, I tend to do that with every load that uses STEEL powder.

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[Flightstopper]

Have them shoot Kent's

Thought I remembered you saying you didn't like Kent's. this was from a couple years ago so I could be wrong. With these cheap bastards I'm gonna have a hard time getting them to shoot anything besides shells from the dollar bin

[goosepit2007]

i believe the sportsman is same straight hulled remington hull as type 6 rem hull the yellow plastic base in alittle thinner and pressure is little lower load the same as reg remingtn white base marked steel.

we load 75 84 and 88 ...in 75 we load 1 and bb,b's, t's..in 84 we load 3,1,2,b's and bb's and in the 88 3 ,2's most time . have loaded 111 in that hull also but 2 1/5 more grsins of powder for just little more speed and going from 470 grains to437.5 grains of shot ,i gues did not see big difference on how ducks were hit compared to the little slowerrsi 88 load,which carried the pattern a little further out and hit ducks/geese just as hard..denser pattern is plus and once get above 1700 fps it pounds them up perty good. if had one load it would be the rsi88 load in 2's.. we keep are shots or try too keep them under the 40 yard mark for the last shots...so perty close and with added speed the 2's hit geese perty hard feathers go and crushes them up(big honkers)load has 135 pellets at least with the last bag of 2's that we loaded with...we shot mallards long ways out there this year with that load.....

if like higher density pattern though would go right too number 75 rsi load in my 835/935 mossy in 3 shots it averages 1635 fps with 28 inch bbl...and has 7 less grains of powder and loads up nice in the green or black sportsman hull in 3".
good luck

[Flightstopper]

So your saying you use the black sportsman steel in RSI 75? Equates to lower pressure and has the same volume/ base wad as the white base wad.

[jehler]

Just a heads up with RSI 131 I found that I had to apply 80-90 pounds of wad pressure to keep the top of the wad from getting folded up with/under the crimp.

I use the yellow basewads remingtons also. What I have seen,not saying much, is that with hulls that have a split or crack at the top of the hull can lead to a complete rip down the side of the hull when reloaded and fired again. Lesson learned

I would have to check my notes to be sure but think I trim the wads down on 130 and 131

[Flightstopper]

Sorry, I meant yellow platic basewad. 75 hss been a good load, I prefer 84 myself, and I load 88 with #2 when I am hunting where both ducks and geese are likely. To avoid confusion, buy sone Cheddite hulls or keep your buddies 3" Kent hulls, load #s 131, 132, and 133, you can't go wrong, 132 has been my favorite.

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What gun you shoot 132 from?

[jarbo03]

Sorry, I meant yellow platic basewad. 75 hss been a good load, I prefer 84 myself, and I load 88 with #2 when I am hunting where both ducks and geese are likely. To avoid confusion, buy sone Cheddite hulls or keep your buddies 3" Kent hulls, load #s 131, 132, and 133, you can't go wrong, 132 has been my favorite.

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What gun you shoot 132 from?

Mossber O/U, worked great in ny Beretta 390 also.

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[Flightstopper]

Sorry, I meant yellow platic basewad. 75 hss been a good load, I prefer 84 myself, and I load 88 with #2 when I am hunting where both ducks and geese are likely. To avoid confusion, buy sone Cheddite hulls or keep your buddies 3" Kent hulls, load #s 131, 132, and 133, you can't go wrong, 132 has been my favorite.

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What gun you shoot 132 from?

Mossber O/U, worjed great ib ny Beretta 390 also.

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Cool, only thing that worries me is the pressure on that load at 11,400. What does it take to actually be in danger? Even though high recommended psi is 11,500

[goosepit2007]

yes i load the sportsman the same as green marked steel with no problems the pressure is little lower with black hulls......on th rsi 131 shows 10200 psi with the 520 grain load with said same powder as the 132 that has 492.2 grains shot with same powder charge as load number 131 but says has 11,400 psi...just thought there was something not right with that, was always going to call them up and check on that pressure should be higher with the heavier payload i would think....i shoot these loads out of rem 1100 and have shot 1 1/4 load at 12200psi with no problems at all.

the green hulls of remington last through a few more reloading then the black remington hulls ...just like anything pitch bad crimp/cracks and keep eye on brass end of hull don't take chance trying to get one more load hulls are cheap....

hope this helps

[Flightstopper]

yes i load the sportsman the same as green marked steel with no problems the pressure is little lower with black hulls......on th rsi 131 shows 10200 psi with the 520 grain load with said same powder as the 132 that has 492.2 grains shot with same powder charge as load number 131 but says has 11,400 psi...just thought there was something not right with that, was always going to call them up and check on that pressure should be higher with the heavier payload i would think....i shoot these loads out of rem 1100 and have shot 1 1/4 load at 12200psi with no problems at all.

the green hulls of remington last through a few more reloading then the black remington hulls ...just like anything pitch bad crimp/cracks and keep eye on brass end of hull don't take chance trying to get one more load hulls are cheap....

hope this helps

Thanks goose, I'm new at reloading steel after looking for two plus years. Glad to have more of us on the site

[cannon]

Look for yellow base wads. That's what RSI is referring to. Remington varies both base wad height and hull length, depending on the factory payload. Look for 1 1/4-1 3/8 oz hulls with yellow bases.

[Flightstopper]

Look for yellow base wads. That's what RSI is referring to. Remington varies both base wad height and hull length, depending on the factory payload. Look for 1 1/4-1 3/8 oz hulls with yellow bases.

Great to know