Whatcha think John?

[Goldfish]

they lie about the weight Goldie

Doesn't matter when you tell them that weight

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[Eric Haynes]

My money is on gangrig

But i get your money if i win right?

Make it $1000 cash and I will line up 40' of shingles. I will record myself going and putting 4 nails in each shingle and post it. Gang does the same. If he doesn't do it faster, $1000 in my pocket, $2000 in yours if he's faster.

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nope. Bare roof, 12 bundles of shingles at the peak. At the start both set up ladders and get to work.

That's not the argument. He claimed that hand roofing was faster than a nail gun. You said you were betting on gangrig hand nailing faster than I could nail gun them. Can't just change the bet because you feel like it.

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[jehler]

My money is on gangrig

But i get your money if i win right?

Make it $1000 cash and I will line up 40' of shingles. I will record myself going and putting 4 nails in each shingle and post it. Gang does the same. If he doesn't do it faster, $1000 in my pocket, $2000 in yours if he's faster.

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nope. Bare roof, 12 bundles of shingles at the peak. At the start both set up ladders and get to work.

That's not the argument. He claimed that hand roofing was faster than a nail gun. You said you were betting on gangrig hand nailing faster than I could nail gun them. Can't just change the bet because you feel like it.

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the fuck I can't.

[jehler]

Fair bet what I proposed, nailing a set up row of shingles is not

[Eric Haynes]

Fair bet what I proposed, nailing a set up row of shingles is not

The only thing in question is the speed of hand hammering over nail gun. Its not fair, you are right because you know the answer.

I dont know if I'm fast or not. I don't race anyone while roofing. I usually lay 5-6 bundles of architecturals an hour on a typical roof by myself. Obviously a lot slower with more valleys.

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[gangrig25]

I was speaking in terms of making money...or a days work. 40' don't mean shit to me. But like I said earlier, I have no need or reason to "prove" myself...I did that years ago. I'm sure you were little more then a twinkle in your daddy's eye.

[gangrig25]

Fair bet what I proposed, nailing a set up row of shingles is not

The only thing in question is the speed of hand hammering over nail gun. Its not fair, you are right because you know the answer.

I dont know if I'm fast or not. I don't race anyone while roofing. I usually lay 5-6 bundles of architecturals an hour on a typical roof by myself. Obviously a lot slower with more valleys.

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and you want to race...you better bump that up to 5 square an hour teh call on me...

[gangrig25]

My 65 year old daddy can out nail you and he's working with a half a lung.

[jehler]

My money is on gangrig

But i get your money if i win right?

Make it $1000 cash and I will line up 40' of shingles. I will record myself going and putting 4 nails in each shingle and post it. Gang does the same. If he doesn't do it faster, $1000 in my pocket, $2000 in yours if he's faster.

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nope. Bare roof, 12 bundles of shingles at the peak. At the start both set up ladders and get to work.

That's not the argument. He claimed that hand roofing was faster than a nail gun. You said you were betting on gangrig hand nailing faster than I could nail gun them. Can't just change the bet because you feel like it.

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he said, hand driving was faster, since we were talking about roofing I assume he means he can roof faster with a hammer than a gun. No where did he say a gun can't lay down nails fast. I have seen guys lay shingles with hand drives that just left me jaw dropped, I believe him

[DeadEye_Dan]

Shhhheeeeeeeiiiiiiiiitttt.

I can put in nails faster with my tallywhacker than any of 'em can do with a gun or a hammer.

[Flightstopper]

Shhhheeeeeeeiiiiiiiiitttt.

I can put in nails faster with my tallywhacker than any of 'em can do with a gun or a hammer.

Shoot 'em straight out the tip

[Tiler_J]

I am going to end this now, My dick is the biggest! If you guys want to keep arguing about who's is the next biggest, go ahead. Second place is also the first looser, carry on ladies!

[Eric Haynes]

I am going to end this now, My dick is the biggest! If you guys want to keep arguing about who's is the next biggest, go ahead. Second place is also the first looser, carry on ladies!

That's exactly all this is. I never once said I can lay shingles faster, I said I could nail them faster with a nail gun than he could by hand. Plain and simple, and it's true. Where did I say I could shingle a roof faster than Gang? His standing seam work looks awesome, a trade I have no idea how to do, but never want to learn at the same time. Not insulting gangrig's talents in any way, just debating the fact that a nailer is faster than hand at putting nails in.

[Eric Haynes]

Fair bet what I proposed, nailing a set up row of shingles is not

The only thing in question is the speed of hand hammering over nail gun. Its not fair, you are right because you know the answer.

I dont know if I'm fast or not. I don't race anyone while roofing. I usually lay 5-6 bundles of architecturals an hour on a typical roof by myself. Obviously a lot slower with more valleys.

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and you want to race...you better bump that up to 5 square an hour teh call on me...

You both have reading comprehension problems. I don't need to prove anything about roofing, just stating a simple fact. I'm actually on the way out of this business....hopefully.

[AKPirate]

My bet is still on Bo!

[Eric Haynes]

I was speaking in terms of making money...or a days work. 40' don't mean shit to me. But like I said earlier, I have no need or reason to "prove" myself...I did that years ago. I'm sure you were little more then a twinkle in your daddy's eye.

I don't do work by the hour, only bid. $450/sq here for strip and reroof is the norm. So the longer it takes, the less I make. Never had a roof leak in my time in the business and don't ever plan to.

I have nailed a few by hand where compressors weren't an option or weren't optimal and I will admit, it's more consistent as far as nail depth. I am actually thinking about dropping the money on a couple Paslode roofers, but a little skeptical because of the 4 framers I have constantly needing maintenance.

[assateague]

I'm with Eric on this one, 100%.

[Eric Haynes]

I'm with Eric on this one, 100%.

Don't worry Jim, they won't defy you

[jehler]

I was speaking in terms of making money...or a days work. 40' don't mean shit to me. But like I said earlier, I have no need or reason to "prove" myself...I did that years ago. I'm sure you were little more then a twinkle in your daddy's eye.

I don't do work by the hour, only bid. $450/sq here for strip and reroof is the norm. So the longer it takes, the less I make. Never had a roof leak in my time in the business and don't ever plan to.

I have nailed a few by hand where compressors weren't an option or weren't optimal and I will admit, it's more consistent as far as nail depth. I am actually thinking about dropping the money on a couple Paslode roofers, but a little skeptical because of the 4 framers I have constantly needing maintenance.

hitachi roof gun is the best hands down

[DeadEye_Dan]

You got a new venture going??

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[jehler]

You got a new venture going??

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Domination

[assateague]

I was speaking in terms of making money...or a days work. 40' don't mean shit to me. But like I said earlier, I have no need or reason to "prove" myself...I did that years ago. I'm sure you were little more then a twinkle in your daddy's eye.

I don't do work by the hour, only bid. $450/sq here for strip and reroof is the norm. So the longer it takes, the less I make. Never had a roof leak in my time in the business and don't ever plan to.

I have nailed a few by hand where compressors weren't an option or weren't optimal and I will admit, it's more consistent as far as nail depth. I am actually thinking about dropping the money on a couple Paslode roofers, but a little skeptical because of the 4 framers I have constantly needing maintenance.

hitachi roof gun is the best hands down

They are nice. But it's always so easy to find about 20 used Bostitches at the pawnshop.

[jehler]

I was speaking in terms of making money...or a days work. 40' don't mean shit to me. But like I said earlier, I have no need or reason to "prove" myself...I did that years ago. I'm sure you were little more then a twinkle in your daddy's eye.

I don't do work by the hour, only bid. $450/sq here for strip and reroof is the norm. So the longer it takes, the less I make. Never had a roof leak in my time in the business and don't ever plan to.

I have nailed a few by hand where compressors weren't an option or weren't optimal and I will admit, it's more consistent as far as nail depth. I am actually thinking about dropping the money on a couple Paslode roofers, but a little skeptical because of the 4 framers I have constantly needing maintenance.

hitachi roof gun is the best hands down

They are nice. But it's always so easy to find about 20 used Bostitches at the pawnshop.

dont like the yellow ones.

[Eric Haynes]

I was speaking in terms of making money...or a days work. 40' don't mean shit to me. But like I said earlier, I have no need or reason to "prove" myself...I did that years ago. I'm sure you were little more then a twinkle in your daddy's eye.

I don't do work by the hour, only bid. $450/sq here for strip and reroof is the norm. So the longer it takes, the less I make. Never had a roof leak in my time in the business and don't ever plan to.

I have nailed a few by hand where compressors weren't an option or weren't optimal and I will admit, it's more consistent as far as nail depth. I am actually thinking about dropping the money on a couple Paslode roofers, but a little skeptical because of the 4 framers I have constantly needing maintenance.

hitachi roof gun is the best hands down

They are nice. But it's always so easy to find about 20 used Bostitches at the pawnshop.

dont like the yellow ones.

Does Hitachi make a cordless? That's where I was going with the Paslode roofers. For those remote jobs where it sucks to bring a genny to. I just know the amount of money it costs to keep Paslode framers up and functional

[assateague]

Never had any problem with any of mine, either the cordless or the air. They don't like as much oil as the Sencos was the biggest difference I've seen. The cordless trim guns are a Godsend. Just clean them every once in a while.

[RonE]

Seems to me that for a whole roof (stacked or not) it would be installed in less hours if nailed by hand than by coil-nailer.

With a coil nailer the measuring gauge is on the nail gun, with a roofing hatchet (I like AJC) the gauge and cutter is always in your hand, you don't have to set the gun down to cut shingles. With an apron that holds 20 lbs of nails you reload about 1/20th the number of times you do with a coil nailer.

With experienced roofers, hand nailing because of not having to run ail lines, extension cords or fill gas tanks allows the roofer with a hatchet to start 15 to 45 minutes earlier than the guy with the gun.

Sure, you can line up a row of shingles and shoot them down faster with a nail gun than you can hand nail them but one row of shingles don't count for shit when it comes to roofing, unless it is the last row of the day and cold beer is at the end.

One thing about roofing is that the customer never comes up to inspect your work and if it doesn't leak or blow off, even crappy work gets by.

[assateague]

No gauge needed with architectural.


My money's still on the gun, hands down.

[jehler]

Last time I held a cordless nailer I threw it off the roof deck, not allowed on my jobsites, make me angry just seeing that color orange.

[Eric Haynes]

Seems to me that for a whole roof (stacked or not) it would be installed in less hours if nailed by hand than by coil-nailer.

With a coil nailer the measuring gauge is on the nail gun, with a roofing hatchet (I like AJC) the gauge and cutter is always in your hand, you don't have to set the gun down to cut shingles. With an apron that holds 20 lbs of nails you reload about 1/20th the number of times you do with a coil nailer.

With experienced roofers, hand nailing because of not having to run ail lines, extension cords or fill gas tanks allows the roofer with a hatchet to start 15 to 45 minutes earlier than the guy with the gun.

Sure, you can line up a row of shingles and shoot them down faster with a nail gun than you can hand nail them but one row of shingles don't count for shit when it comes to roofing, unless it is the last row of the day and cold beer is at the end.

One thing about roofing is that the customer never comes up to inspect your work and if it doesn't leak or blow off, even crappy work gets by.

You need to get ahold oh jehlers tattoo artist too. Should make an appt. with him. Looks like he needs another.

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[jehler]

Eric why is it so personal to you the idea that a guy can be faster with a hammer than a nailer?