Considering a .35?

[DeadEye_Dan]

I like eating the shoulders.

I can send you mine then.

[assateague]

Hell yes.


Here's a surefire recipe:

-Take frozen shoulder out of freezer. I generally cut mine off when butchering so they'll fit in a large baking dish.
-Put in large baking dish
-Cover with 1 bottle of cheap barbecue sauce. Don't know if it's the sugar or what, but for this part, cheap works waaaay better than others. I use Kraft regular.
-Dump in one cup of black coffee.
-Cover completely, airtight as possible with aluminum foil
-Bake at 300 for about 4 hours. Do not peek, open the foil, poke holes in it, whatever. Must remain closed.
-Take out, and pull all the meat off, chop up, add a little vinegar and the barbecue sauce of your choice, and voila, pulled pork for sandwiches.

Don't use the leftover sauce from the baking dish for anything- that's just to flavor the meat and pull out all the nastiness from the sinews and what not. There's a lot of connective tissue and sinew in the shoulders (I'm sure you know this), but there's no need to trim- this all cooks down into nothing when doing it this way. Just don't use the drippings. They're nasty. I promise. but it's pretty darn easy, and my favorite Sunday afternoon snack.

[DeadEye_Dan]

Since we are sharing shoulder recipes -


Take 1 large shoulder

Perforate it with a 140 Nosler Ballistic Tip @ 3,000 feet per second.

(This will create a very nice jellied texture to the entire shoulder and will completely breakdown the connective tissue and bones).

Cut out the backstraps and slice into steaks and sear on a hot grill.
Enjoy with a cold beer while enjoying the memory of shooting the deer and not having to track the deer or fuck with a marginal piece of meat.

If your still hungry, repeat as necessary.









Not to be a dick, but it's the same reason why I breast my birds and don't mess with the legs/back etc.
God makes more every spring.

[assateague]

I breast birds as well. But I do love that pulled deer shoulder.

[NuffDaddy]

Jeff I never load over max. It always comes down to shot placement.

Nuff, if you look back I said some people get runners; I had one go near to 60 yards once.

I never said I was en expert even though I have been shooting for over 40 years and own my own rifle range.

What I will say is I am very experienced.





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as you shouldnt Tom, it isnt safe for factory actions.totally agree about shot placement. head shots only if its there

How many jaws have you taken off?

vaporized a few heads. never have just taken a jaw off. if you cant hit a deer in its head at 100 yards or less you need more trigger time

Lotta little limbs where I hunt that you can't see. They will nock a bullet off course by a few inches.

[NuffDaddy]

Ron I didn't shoot that deer.

And whoever did dang sure didn't shoot it in the heart.

If you pause it just right, you can actually see the bullet. Blows right through the top of the shoulders and through the spine. If thats where TK thinks the heart is, then no wonder we have a disagreement.

[NuffDaddy]

Front shoulder grinds up into some great burger. And the legs on a duck are the best part. I save them all separate in the freezer until I have enough for a leg meal.

[DeadEye_Dan]

I breast birds as well. But I do love that pulled deer shoulder.

It actually sounds pretty delicious.

I think I'm going to keep blowing up shoulders and going to try it on a chunk of round steak.

#godmakesmore

[RonE]

Since we are sharing shoulder recipes -


Take 1 large shoulder

Perforate it with a 140 Nosler Ballistic Tip @ 3,000 feet per second.

(This will create a very nice jellied texture to the entire shoulder and will completely breakdown the connective tissue and bones).

Cut out the backstraps and slice into steaks and sear on a hot grill.
Enjoy with a cold beer while enjoying the memory of shooting the deer and not having to track the deer or fuck with a marginal piece of meat.

If your still hungry, repeat as necessary.









Not to be a dick, but it's the same reason why I breast my birds and don't mess with the legs/back etc.
God makes more every spring.

X 1000

[one2many]

Jeff I never load over max. It always comes down to shot placement.

Nuff, if you look back I said some people get runners; I had one go near to 60 yards once.

I never said I was en expert even though I have been shooting for over 40 years and own my own rifle range.

What I will say is I am very experienced.





Blog- http://www.ksducks.com

as you shouldnt Tom, it isnt safe for factory actions.totally agree about shot placement. head shots only if its there

How many jaws have you taken off?

vaporized a few heads. never have just taken a jaw off. if you cant hit a deer in its head at 100 yards or less you need more trigger time

Lotta little limbs where I hunt that you can't see. They will nock a bullet off course by a few inches.

but dont hinder your "better" shot? keep on walking miles to MAYBE recover your game

[NuffDaddy]

[quote="Tomkat"]Jeff I never load over max. It always comes down to shot placement.

Nuff, if you look back I said some people get runners; I had one go near to 60 yards once.

I never said I was en expert even though I have been shooting for over 40 years and own my own rifle range.

What I will say is I am very experienced.





Blog- http://www.ksducks.com

as you shouldnt Tom, it isnt safe for factory actions.totally agree about shot placement. head shots only if its there

How many jaws have you taken off?

vaporized a few heads. never have just taken a jaw off. if you cant hit a deer in its head at 100 yards or less you need more trigger time

Lotta little limbs where I hunt that you can't see. They will nock a bullet off course by a few inches.

but dont hinder your "better" shot? keep on walking miles to MAYBE recover your game [/quote]
Lungs/heart/liver it a lot bigger target than a brain. I can be off 6" and still get a vital shot. If your off by 4" you will blow off a jaw and the deer will run off and starve to death a week later. To date, I've never tracked a deer for more than 200 yards before I found it.

[assateague]

Then you don't bow hunt

[flight control]

Ok, this has gone on long enough. I'm obviously the greatest deer hunter here so I'll share my wisdom. My first deer was shot in the neck with a 22-250. Head went up, tail went up and the whole thing came crashing down. The second was shot at 200 yards with a 223 in the heart. It's legs started to wobble and it keeled over. Then, I quit deer hunting because it's boring as all hell.

So, in conclusion, 22 caliber is best for deer, deer hunting sucks.

Tread closed

[The Duck Hammer]

Then you don't bow hunt

Bow hunting is a bitch. Just being near toothpick sized limbs makes me nervous.


Sent from my Vox Mortem

[Rick]

Dining on a deer heart I didn't hit with a double lung shot as I type this. Thought about saving the shoulders I shot behind for assa's bbq recipe, but they were boned for the ground meat we use umpteen ways, along with the neck I didn't shoot. Life is good.

[jehler]

Dining on a deer heart I didn't hit with a double lung shot as I type this. Thought about saving the shoulders I shot behind for assa's bbq recipe, but they were boned for the ground meat we use umpteen ways, along with the neck I didn't shoot. Life is good.

you ever grind the heart and make Coney Island chili for hit dogs? It's quite authentic

[Rick]

Nope. (Most ask about heart tartare, but nope to that, too.)

[NuffDaddy]

Then you don't bow hunt

I bow hunt more than rifle. Before I started duck hunting, I bow hunted 3 days a week.

[assateague]

Dining on a deer heart I didn't hit with a double lung shot as I type this. Thought about saving the shoulders I shot behind for assa's bbq recipe, but they were boned for the ground meat we use umpteen ways, along with the neck I didn't shoot. Life is good.

Truth be told, I started cooking the shoulders that way because I got tired of cutting out all the sinew to get it ready for grinding. It was originally a lazy man's approach, but worked out well in the end.

[Rick]

It's the shanks I find most problematic, are you including them?

[assateague]

No. I stop at the bottom of the roasts on the hind legs, and the "elbow" on the front. If I could only kill a few deer a year, I'd do different, but I've got basically unlimited deer, so try to not work to hard. And the neighbors livestock dogs appreciate the carcasses much more when I'm lazy.

[one2many]

Then you don't bow hunt

no shit

[one2many]

Lungs/heart/liver it a lot bigger target than a brain. I can be off 6" and still get a vital shot. If your off by 4" you will blow off a jaw and the deer will run off and starve to death a week later. To date, I've never tracked a deer for more than 200 yards before I found it.

tell you what, when i ever just take off the jaw, i will call you and you can come help me track it.
i take head shots with my muzzle loader when i have the chance.
you need more trigger time or less deer fever

[jarbo03]

Lungs/heart/liver it a lot bigger target than a brain. I can be off 6" and still get a vital shot. If your off by 4" you will blow off a jaw and the deer will run off and starve to death a week later. To date, I've never tracked a deer for more than 200 yards before I found it.

tell you what, when i ever just take off the jaw, i will call you and you can come help me track it.
i take head shots with my muzzle loader when i have the chance.
you need more trigger time or less deer fever

I took the jaw off of my first antelope. Was a running shot at 200 yards, I thought it was a good shot. Once it slowed him down I sent one through the pump station.

[Slingshot]

I'm not much of a gun hunter when it comes to deer but have takin my fair share, but mostly with a bow , the bread basket has failed me in the past , I think it was just bad luck ,and not so much the shot believe it or not. I've will take a spine shot everytime if at all possible if i can make it. There done at that point , with NO tracking.

[Mornin Beef]

Then you don't bow hunt

I bow hunt more than rifle. Before I started duck hunting, I bow hunted 3 days a week.

I with Nuff on this. I've bow hunted in my sleep and have woken up in the duck blind before and I dont see any real distance between the two. cripples close or 200 yards away who cares im too tired to get them.

[NuffDaddy]

Lungs/heart/liver it a lot bigger target than a brain. I can be off 6" and still get a vital shot. If your off by 4" you will blow off a jaw and the deer will run off and starve to death a week later. To date, I've never tracked a deer for more than 200 yards before I found it.

tell you what, when i ever just take off the jaw, i will call you and you can come help me track it.
i take head shots with my muzzle loader when i have the chance.
you need more trigger time or less deer fever

I'm not saying I couldn't do it. But it's just not an ethical shot IMO. I'm not nocking you for it...I just wouldn't ever do it. Too many variables when shooting a deer to aim for a target the size of an apple vs a basketball sized target.

[NuffDaddy]

Then you don't bow hunt

no shit

Bow shots are inside 20 yards, and I can usually see any small limbs in the way. 150 yard rifle shot...not so much.

[The Duck Hammer]

I'm not much of a gun hunter when it comes to deer but have takin my fair share, but mostly with a bow , the bread basket has failed me in the past , I think it was just bad luck ,and not so much the shot believe it or not. I've will take a spine shot everytime if at all possible if i can make it. There done at that point , with NO tracking.

Are you saying that you shoot them in the back?

[3legged_lab]

Then you don't bow hunt

no shit

Bow shots are inside 20 yards, and I can usually see any small limbs in the way. 150 yard rifle shot...not so much.

Only 20 yards?!? If all my deer shots were at 20 I'd ear hole em everytime.