Considering a .35?

[The Duck Hammer]

Then you don't bow hunt

no shit

Bow shots are inside 20 yards, and I can usually see any small limbs in the way. 150 yard rifle shot...not so much.

Only 20 yards?!? If all my deer shots were at 20 I'd ear hole em everytime.

How far are your shots? Most the stands I hunt are set up for 15-25 yard shots.

[NuffDaddy]

Then you don't bow hunt

no shit

Bow shots are inside 20 yards, and I can usually see any small limbs in the way. 150 yard rifle shot...not so much.

Only 20 yards?!? If all my deer shots were at 20 I'd ear hole em everytime.

Maybe 30 if it's an open lane and the deer is calm. But I usually setup 15 yards from where I think they will be coming through. Double lung with a rage puts em down quick.

[The Duck Hammer]

Do you really like Rage heads? I've heard mixed feelings about them.

[NuffDaddy]

Do you really like Rage heads? I've heard mixed feelings about them.

Yup. I think I've argued about this with you guys before. 4 of the 7 guys at our camp use them, and haven had a problem yet. Every deer has painted the ground red...even had a guy gut shoot one a couple years ago and we had enough blood to track. Only made it about 150 yards.

[3legged_lab]

Then you don't bow hunt

no shit

Bow shots are inside 20 yards, and I can usually see any small limbs in the way. 150 yard rifle shot...not so much.

Only 20 yards?!? If all my deer shots were at 20 I'd ear hole em everytime.

How far are your shots? Most the stands I hunt are set up for 15-25 yard shots.

I live in high desert. Spot and stalk hunts on muleys can have a good shot be 40 - 60, and I've talked to some that will practice to 70 or 80. My comfort zone max is 60.
This guy came to my shop to buy a knife and said he was a little embarrassed to admit it but he shot this buck at 70yds.

[The Duck Hammer]

Damn. I practice out to about 60 but don't think I would take a shot on a deer at that distance. If I had a solid backstop I'd like to try getting to 100 some day.


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[NuffDaddy]

You guys use Lumenoks? They are pretty badass to target shoot at long distances with. I shoot mine every once in a while at 50 yards just before dark.

[The Duck Hammer]

I have some for the crossbow but none for my bow. Definitely cool to watch.


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[3legged_lab]

Damn. I practice out to about 60 but don't think I would take a shot on a deer at that distance. If I had a solid backstop I'd like to try getting to 100 some day.


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I keep saying I'd like to try stacking pins some day, only on a target, but just to try.

[one2many]

Lungs/heart/liver it a lot bigger target than a brain. I can be off 6" and still get a vital shot. If your off by 4" you will blow off a jaw and the deer will run off and starve to death a week later. To date, I've never tracked a deer for more than 200 yards before I found it.

tell you what, when i ever just take off the jaw, i will call you and you can come help me track it.
i take head shots with my muzzle loader when i have the chance.
you need more trigger time or less deer fever

I took the jaw off of my first antelope. Was a running shot at 200 yards, I thought it was a good shot. Once it slowed him down I sent one through the pump station.

would not have pulled the trigger on a head shot in that situation.

[one2many]

Lungs/heart/liver it a lot bigger target than a brain. I can be off 6" and still get a vital shot. If your off by 4" you will blow off a jaw and the deer will run off and starve to death a week later. To date, I've never tracked a deer for more than 200 yards before I found it.

tell you what, when i ever just take off the jaw, i will call you and you can come help me track it.
i take head shots with my muzzle loader when i have the chance.
you need more trigger time or less deer fever

I'm not saying I couldn't do it. But it's just not an ethical shot IMO. I'm not nocking you for it...I just wouldn't ever do it. Too many variables when shooting a deer to aim for a target the size of an apple vs a basketball sized target.

you have huge apples or small headed deer. you need trigger time. what do you shoot for when hunting prairie dogs?

[3legged_lab]

The face

[3legged_lab]

Sometimes I miss and hit the body

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[The Duck Hammer]

10 points to Three Leggs


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[The Duck Hammer]

Those G5 game points look like they tear shit up. Bought some for squirrels but have yet to use them.


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[one2many]

Sometimes I miss and hit the body

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[3legged_lab]

Those G5 game points look like they tear shit up. Bought some for squirrels but have yet to use them.


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I'm very happy with their durability and flight. I have shot them to 50 and they hold very consistent with field points.

[The Duck Hammer]

Those G5 game points look like they tear shit up. Bought some for squirrels but have yet to use them.


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I'm very happy with their durability and flight. I have shot them to 50 and they hold very consistent with field points.

Good to know. They looked like the best small game heads out there when I bought them so I figured I'd give them a try. I have a half dozen or so of the spring arm judo points and they get fucked up after just one shot. Now if the squirrels would just climb down out of the damn trees for me to shoot at them I would be set.


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[3legged_lab]

The newer, faster bows wreck the judos.

[The Duck Hammer]

The newer, faster bows wreck the judos.

I use them for practice on coke cans. They're basically all flat field points now.


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[3legged_lab]

The newer, faster bows wreck the judos.

I use them for practice on coke cans. They're basically all flat field points now.


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Didn't they come out in the 70s or 80s? Bows just weren't that fast then. My wife and kid shoot them with good results.

[The Duck Hammer]

No idea when they came out but I agree with you. The arms just rip off when they hit the ground or whatever. I'll have to pull out my bear whitetail and see how they work with it.


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[NuffDaddy]

Lungs/heart/liver it a lot bigger target than a brain. I can be off 6" and still get a vital shot. If your off by 4" you will blow off a jaw and the deer will run off and starve to death a week later. To date, I've never tracked a deer for more than 200 yards before I found it.

tell you what, when i ever just take off the jaw, i will call you and you can come help me track it.
i take head shots with my muzzle loader when i have the chance.
you need more trigger time or less deer fever

I'm not saying I couldn't do it. But it's just not an ethical shot IMO. I'm not nocking you for it...I just wouldn't ever do it. Too many variables when shooting a deer to aim for a target the size of an apple vs a basketball sized target.

you have huge apples or small headed deer. you need trigger time. what do you shoot for when hunting prairie dogs?

The brain on a deer is no bigger than an apple.
Why do you think I need more trigger time? Just because I won't take a head shot?
No prairie dogs around here. I shoot squirrels in the chest though.

[one2many]

Lungs/heart/liver it a lot bigger target than a brain. I can be off 6" and still get a vital shot. If your off by 4" you will blow off a jaw and the deer will run off and starve to death a week later. To date, I've never tracked a deer for more than 200 yards before I found it.

tell you what, when i ever just take off the jaw, i will call you and you can come help me track it.
i take head shots with my muzzle loader when i have the chance.
you need more trigger time or less deer fever

I'm not saying I couldn't do it. But it's just not an ethical shot IMO. I'm not nocking you for it...I just wouldn't ever do it. Too many variables when shooting a deer to aim for a target the size of an apple vs a basketball sized target.

you have huge apples or small headed deer. you need trigger time. what do you shoot for when hunting prairie dogs?

The brain on a deer is no bigger than an apple.
Why do you think I need more trigger time? Just because I won't take a head shot?
No prairie dogs around here. I shoot squirrels in the chest though.

1st i never compared the brain of anything to an apple.
2nd why the fuck would you take a chest shot on a squirrel?
as stated in here I WILL TAKE A HEAD SHOT INSIDE 100 YARDS IF IT THERE.
and if you cant hit a fucking apple at 100 yards you have no business out spraying bullets all over the place
maybe i should invite you out for a sod poodle shoot, but you will be shooting at very small targets at a long fucking way away.

[Rick]

2nd why the fuck would you take a chest shot on a squirrel?

Because my grandpa wouldn't give me another bullet that day if I wasted anything but what little meat's on the ribs. And I really wanted to get back out there and shoot another squirrel.

[Rick]

Didn't they come out in the 70s or 80s?

Couldn't say when they were first produced, but they were around in the '70s.

[NuffDaddy]

[quote="NuffDaddy"]
Lungs/heart/liver it a lot bigger target than a brain. I can be off 6" and still get a vital shot. If your off by 4" you will blow off a jaw and the deer will run off and starve to death a week later. To date, I've never tracked a deer for more than 200 yards before I found it.

tell you what, when i ever just take off the jaw, i will call you and you can come help me track it.
i take head shots with my muzzle loader when i have the chance.
you need more trigger time or less deer fever

I'm not saying I couldn't do it. But it's just not an ethical shot IMO. I'm not nocking you for it...I just wouldn't ever do it. Too many variables when shooting a deer to aim for a target the size of an apple vs a basketball sized target.

you have huge apples or small headed deer. you need trigger time. what do you shoot for when hunting prairie dogs?

The brain on a deer is no bigger than an apple.
Why do you think I need more trigger time? Just because I won't take a head shot?
No prairie dogs around here. I shoot squirrels in the chest though.

1st i never compared the brain of anything to an apple.
2nd why the fuck would you take a chest shot on a squirrel?
as stated in here I WILL TAKE A HEAD SHOT INSIDE 100 YARDS IF IT THERE.
and if you cant hit a fucking apple at 100 yards you have no business out spraying bullets all over the place
maybe i should invite you out for a sod poodle shoot, but you will be shooting at very small targets at a long fucking way away.[/quote]
I can hit an apple at 100 yards with no problem. But there are too many variables when shooting a living animal in the woods. Maybe there is a little twig you can't see half way between me and the deer...maybe the deer moves his head a little right as you pull the trigger...a chest shot is a lot safer and kills the deer just fine.

[one2many]

2nd why the fuck would you take a chest shot on a squirrel?

Because my grandpa wouldn't give me another bullet that day if I wasted anything but what little meat's on the ribs. And I really wanted to get back out there and shoot another squirrel.

im not into squirrel brains at all

[huntall6]

2nd why the fuck would you take a chest shot on a squirrel?

Because my grandpa wouldn't give me another bullet that day if I wasted anything but what little meat's on the ribs. And I really wanted to get back out there and shoot another squirrel.

im not into squirrel brains at all

Cheeks. some consider them the best part of the little fuckers.

[Rick]

Then there's the cheeks...