Muzzleloaders, whatcha know?

[Eric Haynes]

It was a dumb hypothetical at that. Do you know how big .50 even is? Have you seen what a ball will do to anything? Get whatever you want but don't sit here and tell me any animal in NA will take a .50 shot and laugh. That's just nonsense.

glad to see you can read. All Hail to the Mighty Eric Haynes, Slayer of Animals Far and Wide and God of all Ballistics Knowledge.

Thanks for the title! Glad to see how you handle criticism like a man

In this case you better get a .99 black powder in case a hippo pops out in front of you.

[Feelin' Fowl]

Sharks. Be prepared for sharks...

[DC727]

Sharks. Be prepared for sharks...

:lol:

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[(MT)Montanafowler]

It was a dumb hypothetical at that. Do you know how big .50 even is? Have you seen what a ball will do to anything? Get whatever you want but don't sit here and tell me any animal in NA will take a .50 shot and laugh. That's just nonsense.

glad to see you can read. All Hail to the Mighty Eric Haynes, Slayer of Animals Far and Wide and God of all Ballistics Knowledge.

Thanks for the title! Glad to see how you handle criticism like a man

In this case you better get a .99 black powder in case a hippo pops out in front of you.

Eric, I never said an animal would laugh off a shot from a .50, it would kill, eventually. In the western states, .50 cal in a muzzleloader is considered the bare minimum caliber for big game hunting. I am well aware of how big .50 is, i'm also aware that black powder is a lot less potent than smokeless.

If you were aware of western history, you'd know a couple of guys came out here exploring a few hundred years ago. they brought military .49 caliber rifles and tried to shoot grizzlies, they decided that wasn't such a good idea.

I live approx. 45 miles from the border of YNP, we have grizzlies in the woods here. To not take that into consideration when going into the mountains would be foolish. Since you live in a state that has never had grizzlies within 1000 miles of it, you just need to shut the fuck up, period.


Doc, sorry to derail your thread, wasn't my intention.

[Eric Haynes]

It was a dumb hypothetical at that. Do you know how big .50 even is? Have you seen what a ball will do to anything? Get whatever you want but don't sit here and tell me any animal in NA will take a .50 shot and laugh. That's just nonsense.

glad to see you can read. All Hail to the Mighty Eric Haynes, Slayer of Animals Far and Wide and God of all Ballistics Knowledge.

Thanks for the title! Glad to see how you handle criticism like a man

In this case you better get a .99 black powder in case a hippo pops out in front of you.

Eric, I never said an animal would laugh off a shot from a .50, it would kill, eventually. In the western states, .50 cal in a muzzleloader is considered the bare minimum caliber for big game hunting. I am well aware of how big .50 is, i'm also aware that black powder is a lot less potent than smokeless.

If you were aware of western history, you'd know a couple of guys came out here exploring a few hundred years ago. they brought military .49 caliber rifles and tried to shoot grizzlies, they decided that wasn't such a good idea.

I live approx. 45 miles from the border of YNP, we have grizzlies in the woods here. To not take that into consideration when going into the mountains would be foolish. Since you live in a state that has never had grizzlies within 1000 miles of it, you just need to shut the fuck up, period.


Doc, sorry to derail your thread, wasn't my intention.

Just because I don't live there, doesn't mean I don't know anything about it. For someone who doesn't even hunt, nor ever black powder hunted, you sure seem to know a lot.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

It was a dumb hypothetical at that. Do you know how big .50 even is? Have you seen what a ball will do to anything? Get whatever you want but don't sit here and tell me any animal in NA will take a .50 shot and laugh. That's just nonsense.

glad to see you can read. All Hail to the Mighty Eric Haynes, Slayer of Animals Far and Wide and God of all Ballistics Knowledge.

Thanks for the title! Glad to see how you handle criticism like a man

In this case you better get a .99 black powder in case a hippo pops out in front of you.

Eric, I never said an animal would laugh off a shot from a .50, it would kill, eventually. In the western states, .50 cal in a muzzleloader is considered the bare minimum caliber for big game hunting. I am well aware of how big .50 is, i'm also aware that black powder is a lot less potent than smokeless.

If you were aware of western history, you'd know a couple of guys came out here exploring a few hundred years ago. they brought military .49 caliber rifles and tried to shoot grizzlies, they decided that wasn't such a good idea.

I live approx. 45 miles from the border of YNP, we have grizzlies in the woods here. To not take that into consideration when going into the mountains would be foolish. Since you live in a state that has never had grizzlies within 1000 miles of it, you just need to shut the fuck up, period.


Doc, sorry to derail your thread, wasn't my intention.

Just because I don't live there, doesn't mean I don't know anything about it. For someone who doesn't even hunt, nor ever black powder hunted, you sure seem to know a lot.

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

not sure why you think i don't hunt, i've hunted nearly all my life. I haven't hunted this year because I haven't been able to afford to.

[Eric Haynes]

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

not sure why you think i don't hunt, i've hunted nearly all my life. I haven't hunted this year because I haven't been able to afford to.

How many grizzlies have you taken in your day?

[capt1972]

I want Rex Mutha Fucking Chapman's take on this.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

not sure why you think i don't hunt, i've hunted nearly all my life. I haven't hunted this year because I haven't been able to afford to.

How many grizzlies have you taken in your day?

[Eric Haynes]

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

not sure why you think i don't hunt, i've hunted nearly all my life. I haven't hunted this year because I haven't been able to afford to.

How many grizzlies have you taken in your day?

Exactly what I thought

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

not sure why you think i don't hunt, i've hunted nearly all my life. I haven't hunted this year because I haven't been able to afford to.

How many grizzlies have you taken in your day?

Exactly what I thought

you proved how much you know, that's why i'm laughing.



let's let this thread get back on track, Doc, i'm sorry.

[ManlyMan]

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

not sure why you think i don't hunt, i've hunted nearly all my life. I haven't hunted this year because I haven't been able to afford to.

How many grizzlies have you taken in your day?

He means sexually.

[capt1972]

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

not sure why you think i don't hunt, i've hunted nearly all my life. I haven't hunted this year because I haven't been able to afford to.

How many grizzlies have you taken in your day?

He means sexually.

Bwaaahaahaaaaha

[Eric Haynes]

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

not sure why you think i don't hunt, i've hunted nearly all my life. I haven't hunted this year because I haven't been able to afford to.

How many grizzlies have you taken in your day?

He means sexually.

That's legit. MT would definitely be the twink so I would imagine he's taken quite a few bears in his day. Probably multiple in the same day.

[ManlyMan]

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

not sure why you think i don't hunt, i've hunted nearly all my life. I haven't hunted this year because I haven't been able to afford to.

How many grizzlies have you taken in your day?

He means sexually.

Bwaaahaahaaaaha

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MF I'm just kidding. I could care less. Just saw an opportunity.

[Bufflehead]

Sharks. Be prepared for sharks...

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[Bufflehead]

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

If you would take your own advice and "shut the fuck up about things you don't shit about", you would have a grand total of about three post on this forum

[Eric Haynes]

Eric, you don't know shit about grizzlies, so shut the fuck up.

not sure why you think i don't hunt, i've hunted nearly all my life. I haven't hunted this year because I haven't been able to afford to.

How many grizzlies have you taken in your day?

He means sexually.

On a serious note.

I only hunt with a muzzleloader for big game. I have 2 Thompson Centers. An Encore and the same one Jim was talking about, the Omega. If I were you I would get the Omega. I shoot both of mine at pretty long ranges with nice groups and I have never had anything move farther than 5 feet after a shot. It uses 209 primers which means none of the dreaded "click" you used to get with #11 primers. They are also super easy to clean. Just unscrew the breech plugs and run a brush and cloth through.

Not sure where you live and what the laws are, but here you can put a scope on black powder rifles so the Encore has a scope and the Omega is open sights for hunting the thick stuff.

[AKPirate]

Doc, just as MT said, check your regs first before you buy. In Washington, we have to use an exposed cap and no glass optics. Keeps it interesting in the rain.

[ea oneal]

not trying to get this off track but i will point out a number of very large bears have been killed with a .50 and if it is set up with the right bullit-powder and shot placement it will kill the largest animal north of the friggen panama canal. you can put a bear down with a recurve bow or compound hell people shoot moose with bow,s often.yet a .50 is not enuff ????

[Eric Haynes]

not trying to get this off track but i will point out a number of very large bears have been killed with a .50 and if it is set up with the right bullit-powder and shot placement it will kill the largest animal north of the friggen panama canal. you can put a bear down with a recurve bow or compound hell people shoot moose with bow,s often.yet a .50 is not enuff ????

His argument shifted to grizzlies, which he has in his backyard.

[Bufflehead]

not trying to get this off track but i will point out a number of very large bears have been killed with a .50 and if it is set up with the right bullit-powder and shot placement it will kill the largest animal north of the friggen panama canal. you can put a bear down with a recurve bow or compound hell people shoot moose with bow,s often.yet a .50 is not enuff ????

His argument shifted to grizzlies, which he has in his backyard.

He should have fun doing his historical hiking with them.

[3geese4me]

This whole situation is a very slippery slope, tread lightly gentlemen.

[AKPirate]

This whole situation is a very slippery slope, tread lightly gentlemen.

You talking about bestiality?

[Feelin' Fowl]

This whole situation is a very slippery slope, tread lightly gentlemen.

Well played!

[(MT)Montanafowler]

apparently, i'm not allowed to have any fucking opinion on any god damn thing.


fuck this shit, Olly, delete my account.

[jehler]

apparently, i'm not allowed to have any fucking opinion on any god damn thing.


fuck this shit, Olly, delete my account.

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[rebelp74]

apparently, i'm not allowed to have any fucking opinion on any god damn thing.


fuck this shit, Olly, delete my account.

No need to bring God into it

[Feelin' Fowl]

apparently, i'm not allowed to have any fucking opinion on any god damn thing.


fuck this shit, Olly, delete my account.

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For real MT...you're always allowed to have an opinion. Just like everyone else is allowed to use their knowledge and experience to prove your opinion wrong.

[3geese4me]

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Just need MT, Eric and Olly to sign off in the applicable boxes to make it official.