Running Radar?

[NuffDaddy]

You guys take snow driving too serious. Gas on the right brake on the left.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THIRD PEDAL FOR?!?!?!!

Quiers

[The Duck Hammer]

You break better?

Does 4 WD engage extra brakes or widen your tires?

What you just said breaks the laws of physics.

And if you don't need 4 WD and you are using it, you are doing two things... Using extra gas and shortening the life of your truck.

the siping allows better traction on snow and ice, therefore your tires don't break free and lock up. so yes, you brake better with siping.

if you compromise better traction for gas mileage, something you paid for and are literally are burning up anyway, you're retarded. i doubt you're shortening the life of a vehicle by using 4 wheel drive.

It is asinine not to use 4 WD based on the gas millage crap. You paid a hell of a lot more money to have the capability to use it, why start worrying about spending money when you need it?

[NuffDaddy]

You break better?

Does 4 WD engage extra brakes or widen your tires?

What you just said breaks the laws of physics.

And if you don't need 4 WD and you are using it, you are doing two things... Using extra gas and shortening the life of your truck.

the siping allows better traction on snow and ice, therefore your tires don't break free and lock up. so yes, you brake better with siping.

if you compromise better traction for gas mileage, something you paid for and are literally are burning up anyway, you're retarded. i doubt you're shortening the life of a vehicle by using 4 wheel drive.

It is asinine not to use 4 WD based on the gas millage crap. You paid a hell of a lot more money to have the capability to use it, why start worrying about spending money when you need it?

Because you don't need it.

[Bulldog0156]

Hey Dan or Red, can we get woody's title changed from "supporter" to "physics professor"?

[Woody]

You break better?

Does 4 WD engage extra brakes or widen your tires?

What you just said breaks the laws of physics.

And if you don't need 4 WD and you are using it, you are doing two things... Using extra gas and shortening the life of your truck.

the siping allows better traction on snow and ice, therefore your tires don't break free and lock up. so yes, you brake better with siping.

if you compromise better traction for gas mileage, something you paid for and are literally are burning up anyway, you're retarded. i doubt you're shortening the life of a vehicle by using 4 wheel drive.

Locking up? What are driving? EBS prevents lockups.

Wtf is siping?

Your last statement tells me you better read an economics book, and I never said I traded it. I said I don't need 4x4 on the road unless I get stuck.

And yes it wi shorten the life of your truck.

[The Duck Hammer]

You break better?

Does 4 WD engage extra brakes or widen your tires?

What you just said breaks the laws of physics.

And if you don't need 4 WD and you are using it, you are doing two things... Using extra gas and shortening the life of your truck.

the siping allows better traction on snow and ice, therefore your tires don't break free and lock up. so yes, you brake better with siping.

if you compromise better traction for gas mileage, something you paid for and are literally are burning up anyway, you're retarded. i doubt you're shortening the life of a vehicle by using 4 wheel drive.

It is asinine not to use 4 WD based on the gas millage crap. You paid a hell of a lot more money to have the capability to use it, why start worrying about spending money when you need it?

Because you don't need it.

Then why the fuck would you buy it?

[Woody]

You break better?

Does 4 WD engage extra brakes or widen your tires?

What you just said breaks the laws of physics.

And if you don't need 4 WD and you are using it, you are doing two things... Using extra gas and shortening the life of your truck.

the siping allows better traction on snow and ice, therefore your tires don't break free and lock up. so yes, you brake better with siping.

if you compromise better traction for gas mileage, something you paid for and are literally are burning up anyway, you're retarded. i doubt you're shortening the life of a vehicle by using 4 wheel drive.

It is asinine not to use 4 WD based on the gas millage crap. You paid a hell of a lot more money to have the capability to use it, why start worrying about spending money when you need it?

Because you don't need it.

I don't see what they don't understand.

[aunt betty]

Older, more experienced drivers are giving VERY SOUND ADVICE. Why do you insist on rejecting it? Nevermind, I know. Its a chemical.

[The Duck Hammer]

I don't understand your reasoning.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

It is asinine not to use 4 WD based on the gas millage crap. You paid a hell of a lot more money to have the capability to use it, why start worrying about spending money when you need it?

exactly. i bought the truck to have truck capabilities. if i wanted good mileage, i'd find a hippie bitch with a subaru and stick a saddle on her.

an abrams tank gets better mileage than my truck.

[Bulldog0156]

I'd ask Olly, but he pays the big bucks to a cop and a banker now, can't tell me those two don't have their hands in each other's pockets...

[Bulldog0156]

It is asinine not to use 4 WD based on the gas millage crap. You paid a hell of a lot more money to have the capability to use it, why start worrying about spending money when you need it?

exactly. i bought the truck to have truck capabilities. if i wanted good mileage, i'd find a hippie bitch with a subaru and stick a saddle on her.

an abrams tank gets better mileage than my truck.

ALL WHEEL DRIVE MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!

[NuffDaddy]

You break better?

Does 4 WD engage extra brakes or widen your tires?

What you just said breaks the laws of physics.

And if you don't need 4 WD and you are using it, you are doing two things... Using extra gas and shortening the life of your truck.

the siping allows better traction on snow and ice, therefore your tires don't break free and lock up. so yes, you brake better with siping.

if you compromise better traction for gas mileage, something you paid for and are literally are burning up anyway, you're retarded. i doubt you're shortening the life of a vehicle by using 4 wheel drive.

It is asinine not to use 4 WD based on the gas millage crap. You paid a hell of a lot more money to have the capability to use it, why start worrying about spending money when you need it?

Because you don't need it.

Then why the fuck would you buy it?

To use when you need it...not to use when you get a little ice or snow on maintained roads.

[Woody]

You break better?

Does 4 WD engage extra brakes or widen your tires?

What you just said breaks the laws of physics.

And if you don't need 4 WD and you are using it, you are doing two things... Using extra gas and shortening the life of your truck.

the siping allows better traction on snow and ice, therefore your tires don't break free and lock up. so yes, you brake better with siping.

if you compromise better traction for gas mileage, something you paid for and are literally are burning up anyway, you're retarded. i doubt you're shortening the life of a vehicle by using 4 wheel drive.

It is asinine not to use 4 WD based on the gas millage crap. You paid a hell of a lot more money to have the capability to use it, why start worrying about spending money when you need it?

Because you don't need it.

Then why the fuck would you buy it?

Incase you get stuck!

Having four wheel drive does not help you when going straight at a constant rate of speed. Only when you are trying to accelerate. It increases the amount of force you can apply.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Locking up? What are driving? EBS prevents lockups.

Wtf is siping?

Your last statement tells me you better read an economics book, and I never said I traded it. I said I don't need 4x4 on the road unless I get stuck.

And yes it wi shorten the life of your truck.

i don't have ABS, and it's useless anyway. you're better off without it.

if you don't know what siping is then you've just rendered your argument moot, since you don't live in real snow country.

[Woody]

Older, more experienced drivers are giving VERY SOUND ADVICE. Why do you insist on rejecting it? Nevermind, I know. Its a chemical.

Who are you talking to?

[NuffDaddy]

Older, more experienced drivers are giving VERY SOUND ADVICE. Why do you insist on rejecting it? Nevermind, I know. Its a chemical.

If you all feel safer putting in the 4wd then go for it. My moms new SUV has traction control and auto engaging 4wd. It's sketchy as hell to drive on slick roads. If you slide or spin at all the car makes a ton of noise and lights start flashing and your tires start spinning and locking up on their own. Fuck that.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

Having four wheel drive does not help you when going straight at a constant rate of speed. Only when you are trying to accelerate. It increases the amount of force you can apply.

woody, you're fucking retarded, or trolling. either way, you evidently have no concept of how 4 wheel drive works.

[The Duck Hammer]

Older, more experienced drivers are giving VERY SOUND ADVICE. Why do you insist on rejecting it? Nevermind, I know. Its a chemical.

Who are you talking to?

Id like to know this as well, cause Woody is a lot older than me.

[NuffDaddy]

Locking up? What are driving? EBS prevents lockups.

Wtf is siping?

Your last statement tells me you better read an economics book, and I never said I traded it. I said I don't need 4x4 on the road unless I get stuck.

And yes it wi shorten the life of your truck.

i don't have ABS, and it's useless anyway. you're better off without it.

if you don't know what siping is then you've just rendered your argument moot, since you don't live in real snow country.

I've never heard if it either, and I think northern MI gets more snow than most places in the US.

[NuffDaddy]

Having four wheel drive does not help you when going straight at a constant rate of speed. Only when you are trying to accelerate. It increases the amount of force you can apply.

woody, you're fucking retarded, or trolling. either way, you evidently have no concept of how 4 wheel drive works.

Enlighten us then. If you know how to drive on snowy roads, then 4wd is a waste if time and money.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

I've never heard if it either, and I think northern MI gets more snow than most places in the US.

computer generated micro cuts into the tire to help it spread out more. it's like sticking velcro on your tires and the road. i will have it done on every tire i ever buy again.

[Woody]

Locking up? What are driving? EBS prevents lockups.

Wtf is siping?

Your last statement tells me you better read an economics book, and I never said I traded it. I said I don't need 4x4 on the road unless I get stuck.

And yes it wi shorten the life of your truck.

i don't have ABS, and it's useless anyway. you're better off without it.

if you don't know what siping is then you've just rendered your argument moot, since you don't live in real snow country.

If you are talking about cutting your treds, then I know, but we are talking about driving in 4x4 and I can't see how siping is related to 4x4.

[aunt betty]

Locking up? What are driving? EBS prevents lockups.

Wtf is siping?

Your last statement tells me you better read an economics book, and I never said I traded it. I said I don't need 4x4 on the road unless I get stuck.

And yes it wi shorten the life of your truck.

i don't have ABS, and it's useless anyway. you're better off without it.

if you don't know what siping is then you've just rendered your argument moot, since you don't live in real snow country.

Woa. My truck has abs and stabilitrac or something like it. If I slam on the brakes on ice or snow the brakes go bam bam bam bam bam...
It feels terrible but damn, that truck stops quick and with zero loss of control.
The more you try and convince us how smart and experienced you are...the deeper in the hole you get.
Here...you like using these obviously.

[(MT)Montanafowler]

siping gives you better traction and braking ability.

[Bulldog0156]

This thread is really making me laugh

[Woody]

I've never heard if it either, and I think northern MI gets more snow than most places in the US.

computer generated micro cuts into the tire to help it spread out more. it's like sticking velcro on your tires and the road. i will have it done on every tire i ever buy again.

Don't you think there is a reason that the multi billion dollar tire company chose not to do it to the tire?

[NuffDaddy]

siping gives you better traction and braking ability.

Don't fuckin matter a bit if your in 4 or not on how fast you can stop.

[Woody]

siping gives you better traction and braking ability.

That's great!

How does that help your argument for driving on pavement with four wheel drive just because it snowed?

[(MT)Montanafowler]

The more you try and convince us how smart and experienced you are...the deeper in the home you get.
Here...you like using these obviously.

can't see your pic. the ABS i've had in work trucks makes a weird grinding sound and once you start to slide, doesn't disengage. dunno if it was working correctly or not, but i had no recovery.