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Postby The Duck Hammer » Sat May 03, 2014 11:38 pm

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The Duck Hammer wrote:You missed the center.

Oh for fuck's sake! It'd be a dead coyote anyways! :lol:


For somebody that obsesses over ammo you'd think you'd sight your damn rifle in right.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sat May 03, 2014 11:41 pm

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The Duck Hammer wrote:You missed the center.

Oh for fuck's sake! It'd be a dead coyote anyways! :lol:


For somebody that obsesses over ammo you'd think you'd sight your damn rifle in right.

3 clicks right and it'll be dead on. I'll do that tomorrow after I get a shorter tang screw.
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sat May 03, 2014 11:43 pm

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The Duck Hammer wrote:You missed the center.

Oh for fuck's sake! It'd be a dead coyote anyways! :lol:


For somebody that obsesses over ammo you'd think you'd sight your damn rifle in right.

3 clicks right and it'll be dead on. I'll do that tomorrow after I get a shorter tang screw.

Surely you mean left. And you probably need to go down a click too.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sat May 03, 2014 11:44 pm

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The Duck Hammer wrote:You missed the center.

Oh for fuck's sake! It'd be a dead coyote anyways! :lol:


For somebody that obsesses over ammo you'd think you'd sight your damn rifle in right.

3 clicks right and it'll be dead on. I'll do that tomorrow after I get a shorter tang screw.

Surely you mean left. And you probably need to go down a click too.

My bad, left. Nope 2 inches high at 200 will make it about 4" low at 300.
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sat May 03, 2014 11:49 pm

R. Chapman wrote:My bad, left. Nope 2 inches high at 200 will make it about 4" low at 300.

Oh I thought you were trying to be dead on a 200.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sat May 03, 2014 11:52 pm

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R. Chapman wrote:My bad, left. Nope 2 inches high at 200 will make it about 4" low at 300.

Oh I thought you were trying to be dead on a 200.

That would be "dead on" for me.
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sat May 03, 2014 11:54 pm

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R. Chapman wrote:My bad, left. Nope 2 inches high at 200 will make it about 4" low at 300.

Oh I thought you were trying to be dead on a 200.

That would be "dead on" for me.

Nope, that would still be 2" high.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sat May 03, 2014 11:55 pm

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R. Chapman wrote:My bad, left. Nope 2 inches high at 200 will make it about 4" low at 300.

Oh I thought you were trying to be dead on a 200.

That would be "dead on" for me.

Nope, that would still be 2" high.

Well the way I see it, anything under 300 is dead, especially if I'm on!
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:04 am

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R. Chapman wrote:My bad, left. Nope 2 inches high at 200 will make it about 4" low at 300.

Oh I thought you were trying to be dead on a 200.

That would be "dead on" for me.

Nope, that would still be 2" high.

Well the way I see it, anything under 300 is dead, especially if I'm on!

What kind of rifle you shooting? We sight in my dad's .257 wby. mag for 0" at 300 yds. and get just under -8" of drop at 400. It is shooting at +3.5" at 200 yds. I also sight in my .243 for 300 yds, but I can't remember the trajectory off the top of my head.
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:07 am

Fuck nevermind I just realized you posted it. :oops: Is that the .222?
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Postby R. Chapman » Sun May 04, 2014 12:10 am

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What kind of rifle you shooting? We sight in my dad's .257 wby. mag for 0" at 300 yds. and get just under -8" of drop at 400. It is shooting at +3.5" at 200 yds. I also sight in my .243 for 300 yds, but I can't remember the trajectory off the top of my head.

I used to sight in dead on the mark at 300 or 400 a couple years ago but boy did I learn my lesson. Try holding for a bullet that shoots too high at 200. I missed 4 deer in a row before I figured out the problem. Now I sight in all my rifles at 200 striking 2" high. Most of them will strike 4"-7" low at 300 and no more than 1 foot low at 400.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sun May 04, 2014 12:12 am

ducks~n~bucks wrote:Fuck nevermind I just realized you posted it. :oops: Is that the .222?

Yes it is. I'm so glad I got this little gem. It was made the first year of production for the 700. First load in it and it shoots 1/2 MOA, that's something considering I haven't free floated the barrel channel or glass bedded the action. I don't think I will either.
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:13 am

R. Chapman wrote:I used to sight in dead on the mark at 300 or 400 a couple years ago but boy did I learn my lesson. Try holding for a bullet that shoots too high at 200. I missed 4 deer in a row before I figured out the problem. Now I sight in all my rifles at 200 striking 2" high. Most of them will strike 4"-7" low at 300 and no more than 1 foot low at 400.

I've never had a problem. I've shot deer ranging from 217 to 355 and always been in the boiler maker. Guess it just comes down to what you're comfortable with.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sun May 04, 2014 12:14 am

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R. Chapman wrote:I used to sight in dead on the mark at 300 or 400 a couple years ago but boy did I learn my lesson. Try holding for a bullet that shoots too high at 200. I missed 4 deer in a row before I figured out the problem. Now I sight in all my rifles at 200 striking 2" high. Most of them will strike 4"-7" low at 300 and no more than 1 foot low at 400.

I've never had a problem. I've shot deer ranging from 217 to 355 and always been in the boiler maker. Guess it just comes down to what you're comfortable with.

Yeah, I shot over the back of 4 deer at 200 yards. Finally figured it out that being dead on at 400 won't help at closer range.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sun May 04, 2014 12:16 am

How's your pop like that .257 Wby Mag? I've looked at getting on but I have a .25-06 Remington. What slugs are you running through it?
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:20 am

Speaking of my .243, it's and awesome little gun. Used to be a Springfield 1903a3 30-06. One night my dad was drinking and took it outside to show to his buddies and when he was done he leaned it up against the back bumper of his truck. He got up the next morning to go to work, and after backing up he realized he had never taken the thing back inside, and broke the stock. I was 5 or 6 at the time and he had wanted to get me a deer rifle so he took it to the gunsmith and got it re barreled to .243, so I would have a gun I could shoot when I was little and not flinch, and still be able to use it now for deer. A few years ago it randomly started shooting groups that were about a foot, so he glass bedded it. Now I can get 3 shots inside of a quarter if I'm having a good day.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sun May 04, 2014 12:25 am

ducks~n~bucks wrote:Speaking of my .243, it's and awesome little gun. Used to be a Springfield 1903a3 30-06. One night my dad was drinking and took it outside to show to his buddies and when he was done he leaned it up against the back bumper of his truck. He got up the next morning to go to work, and after backing up he realized he had never taken the thing back inside, and broke the stock. I was 5 or 6 at the time and he had wanted to get me a deer rifle so he took it to the gunsmith and got it re barreled to .243, so I would have a gun I could shoot when I was little and not flinch, and still be able to use it now for deer. A few years ago it randomly started shooting groups that were about a foot, so he glass bedded it. Now I can get 3 shots inside of a quarter if I'm having a good day.

.243 is a good little cartridge. I don't care what anyone says, it can be used effectively on elk. When either my dad or uncle where in their 20s, I think it was my uncle hunted elk for nearly a decade and a half with a .243 shooting 80 gr. soft points. That's all he could afford. The man shot 20 elk in 15 years and they all fell to no more than 2 shots. A few he put down on the run.
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R. Chapman wrote:How's your pop like that .257 Wby Mag? I've looked at getting on but I have a .25-06 Remington. What slugs are you running through it?

He loves it. I can't remember what we he shoots from it off the top of my head, so I'll get back to you tomorrow when I can go to his reloading bench. Took him a while to find the right load though. He has to f=start wirking on a whole new load now though, because California is going lead free.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sun May 04, 2014 12:26 am

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R. Chapman wrote:How's your pop like that .257 Wby Mag? I've looked at getting on but I have a .25-06 Remington. What slugs are you running through it?

He loves it. I can't remember what we he shoots from it off the top of my head, so I'll get back to you tomorrow when I can go to his reloading bench. Took him a while to find the right load though. He has to f=start wirking on a whole new load now though, because California is going lead free.

Yeah I see that. That has to really fucking suck. What's he plan on for shooting bullets? I'd imagine barnes is towards the top of the list?
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:27 am

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R. Chapman wrote:How's your pop like that .257 Wby Mag? I've looked at getting on but I have a .25-06 Remington. What slugs are you running through it?

He loves it. I can't remember what we he shoots from it off the top of my head, so I'll get back to you tomorrow when I can go to his reloading bench. Took him a while to find the right load though. He has to f=start wirking on a whole new load now though, because California is going lead free.

I know the factory bullets run great out of them, but they are $90 a box. Way easier to buy 7 mag brass, neck it down and use that.
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:28 am

R. Chapman wrote:
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R. Chapman wrote:How's your pop like that .257 Wby Mag? I've looked at getting on but I have a .25-06 Remington. What slugs are you running through it?

He loves it. I can't remember what we he shoots from it off the top of my head, so I'll get back to you tomorrow when I can go to his reloading bench. Took him a while to find the right load though. He has to f=start wirking on a whole new load now though, because California is going lead free.

Yeah I see that. That has to really fucking suck. What's he plan on for shooting bullets? I'd imagine barnes is towards the top of the list?

I don't rightly know yet.
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:30 am

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ducks~n~bucks wrote:Speaking of my .243, it's and awesome little gun. Used to be a Springfield 1903a3 30-06. One night my dad was drinking and took it outside to show to his buddies and when he was done he leaned it up against the back bumper of his truck. He got up the next morning to go to work, and after backing up he realized he had never taken the thing back inside, and broke the stock. I was 5 or 6 at the time and he had wanted to get me a deer rifle so he took it to the gunsmith and got it re barreled to .243, so I would have a gun I could shoot when I was little and not flinch, and still be able to use it now for deer. A few years ago it randomly started shooting groups that were about a foot, so he glass bedded it. Now I can get 3 shots inside of a quarter if I'm having a good day.

.243 is a good little cartridge. I don't care what anyone says, it can be used effectively on elk. When either my dad or uncle where in their 20s, I think it was my uncle hunted elk for nearly a decade and a half with a .243 shooting 80 gr. soft points. That's all he could afford. The man shot 20 elk in 15 years and they all fell to no more than 2 shots. A few he put down on the run.

If I were to start reloading for it, I could safely make rounds that shoot faster than my dad's weatherby.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sun May 04, 2014 12:30 am

I don't like barnes personally; way too much copper fouling to deal with from the few times I've used it. The Nosler E-tips have always shot decently for me but they ain't that cheap. Neither is barnes. Either way, you're fucked.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sun May 04, 2014 12:32 am

ducks~n~bucks wrote:
R. Chapman wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:Speaking of my .243, it's and awesome little gun. Used to be a Springfield 1903a3 30-06. One night my dad was drinking and took it outside to show to his buddies and when he was done he leaned it up against the back bumper of his truck. He got up the next morning to go to work, and after backing up he realized he had never taken the thing back inside, and broke the stock. I was 5 or 6 at the time and he had wanted to get me a deer rifle so he took it to the gunsmith and got it re barreled to .243, so I would have a gun I could shoot when I was little and not flinch, and still be able to use it now for deer. A few years ago it randomly started shooting groups that were about a foot, so he glass bedded it. Now I can get 3 shots inside of a quarter if I'm having a good day.

.243 is a good little cartridge. I don't care what anyone says, it can be used effectively on elk. When either my dad or uncle where in their 20s, I think it was my uncle hunted elk for nearly a decade and a half with a .243 shooting 80 gr. soft points. That's all he could afford. The man shot 20 elk in 15 years and they all fell to no more than 2 shots. A few he put down on the run.

If I were to start reloading for it, I could safely make rounds that shoot faster than my dad's weatherby.

I honestly don't give a shit how fast a bullet is traveling. I care more about the group accuracy than anything else. You can't nor will any game animal be able to tell the difference between 100 fps.
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:33 am

R. Chapman wrote:I don't like barnes personally; way too much copper fouling to deal with from the few times I've used it. The Nosler E-tips have always shot decently for me but they ain't that cheap. Neither is barnes. Either way, you're fucked.

Yeah, he had some lead free bullet's before, (I can't recall the brand) but they exploded when they hit the deer, creating shrapnel that hamburgered the fuck out of most of the meat.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sun May 04, 2014 12:35 am

ducks~n~bucks wrote:
R. Chapman wrote:I don't like barnes personally; way too much copper fouling to deal with from the few times I've used it. The Nosler E-tips have always shot decently for me but they ain't that cheap. Neither is barnes. Either way, you're fucked.

Yeah, he had some lead free bullet's before, (I can't recall the brand) but they exploded when they hit the deer, creating shrapnel that hamburgered the fuck out of most of the meat.

Berger's do that as well but the difference is they go in about 5" then explode. I think Berger's are the way to go for large game using small calibers (6mm-.277"/7mm).
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:36 am

R. Chapman wrote:
ducks~n~bucks wrote:
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ducks~n~bucks wrote:Speaking of my .243, it's and awesome little gun. Used to be a Springfield 1903a3 30-06. One night my dad was drinking and took it outside to show to his buddies and when he was done he leaned it up against the back bumper of his truck. He got up the next morning to go to work, and after backing up he realized he had never taken the thing back inside, and broke the stock. I was 5 or 6 at the time and he had wanted to get me a deer rifle so he took it to the gunsmith and got it re barreled to .243, so I would have a gun I could shoot when I was little and not flinch, and still be able to use it now for deer. A few years ago it randomly started shooting groups that were about a foot, so he glass bedded it. Now I can get 3 shots inside of a quarter if I'm having a good day.

.243 is a good little cartridge. I don't care what anyone says, it can be used effectively on elk. When either my dad or uncle where in their 20s, I think it was my uncle hunted elk for nearly a decade and a half with a .243 shooting 80 gr. soft points. That's all he could afford. The man shot 20 elk in 15 years and they all fell to no more than 2 shots. A few he put down on the run.

If I were to start reloading for it, I could safely make rounds that shoot faster than my dad's weatherby.

I honestly don't give a shit how fast a bullet is traveling. I care more about the group accuracy than anything else. You can't nor will any game animal be able to tell the difference between 100 fps.

I would't want to shoot rounds from my gun that fast anyway, I want it to last a while.
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:39 am

R. Chapman wrote:
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R. Chapman wrote:I don't like barnes personally; way too much copper fouling to deal with from the few times I've used it. The Nosler E-tips have always shot decently for me but they ain't that cheap. Neither is barnes. Either way, you're fucked.

Yeah, he had some lead free bullet's before, (I can't recall the brand) but they exploded when they hit the deer, creating shrapnel that hamburgered the fuck out of most of the meat.

Berger's do that as well but the difference is they go in about 5" then explode. I think Berger's are the way to go for large game using small calibers (6mm-.277"/7mm).

I've seen what Berger's do, and it is definitely not the same as what I am talking about. They go in, make hardly any bloodshot, and blow the shit out of the insides. I watched my friend gut deer doing a quartering away shot on a buck, and hardly ruin any meat with Berger's.
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Postby R. Chapman » Sun May 04, 2014 12:41 am

Your barrel has a lot of life. I doubt you'll be able to shoot that barrel out in your lifetime. I have an uncle who has shot out the barrel of a .243 (Savage 99, his first rifle), He literally put 10,000 rounds down the tube before he had Lilja make him a match grade .243 Winchester barrel. So far he has 2,000 down that barrel. He told me the accuracy went out between 5,000-6,000. We're talking 3/4 MOA (That's his standard for accuracy).
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Postby ducks~n~bucks » Sun May 04, 2014 12:42 am

R. Chapman wrote:Your barrel has a lot of life. I doubt you'll be able to shoot that barrel out in your lifetime. I have an uncle who has shot out the barrel of a .243 (Savage 99, his first rifle), He literally put 10,000 rounds down the tube before he had Lilja make him a match grade .243 Winchester barrel. So far he has 2,000 down that barrel. He told me the accuracy went out between 5,000-6,000. We're talking 3/4 MOA (That's his standard for accuracy).

I know it won't go out in my lifetime, but I'm giving this gun to my kids when I have them.
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