Re: Post Season Things

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Re: Post Season Things

Postby DComeaux » Thu Sep 04, 2025 8:50 pm

Rick wrote:We, OK, JJ, saw two teal on our marsh gator roundup this morning. I missed 'em, but he's a reliable witness.


As most years, you'll have yours when the rice field guns go off. Every flooded field will be disturbed, morning and evening.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Rick » Fri Sep 05, 2025 3:13 am

DComeaux wrote:As most years, you'll have yours when the rice field guns go off. Every flooded field will be disturbed, morning and evening.


That's the plan/hope, and fingers and toes will be crossed. But both of the two guys in my blind before me teal hunt the rice in September. So, I guess, "We'll see..."

But the bottom line here is that I wish I'd picked up the pair, just because it tickles me to see them.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby DComeaux » Sun Sep 07, 2025 8:58 pm

Blake and I made a run to the blind yesterday morning and jumped a hand full of teal that I could make out in the large number of other birds that took flight all the way to the blind. The growth on all land areas is lush and tall. Our island has good growth with some sea myrtle (Baccharis halimifolia) taking root around our blind. We've used those cut from other areas nearby over the last couple of years and I assume seeding took place. They have a pretty stout root system. The water level is low but not perfect. I found out the water level we have now will be the lowest we get due to the crabbers fishing the surrounding marshes. I would like to see at least a 6" drop from where it is now.

It took longer to run to the spot then it did to catch our limit. These are a better size then we've caught over the last two years. I wish I had the time this week for a couple of trips while there still running.

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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Duck Engr » Sun Sep 07, 2025 9:54 pm

Woooowee what a cooler full! I’m jealous. I think you won teal season already.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Rick » Mon Sep 08, 2025 3:49 am

Sweet catch, and mangliers taking the island may help hold it together and aid blind concealment but could end up tough to manage. Not nearly the fan of them as I am of what's in the box.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby DComeaux » Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:31 am

Rick wrote:Sweet catch, and mangliers taking the island may help hold it together and aid blind concealment but could end up tough to manage. Not nearly the fan of them as I am of what's in the box.


That was exactly my thoughts. Hard to manage but will hopefully hold together what we have left. All other types of marsh grass around the blind are thick and healthy. I'm praying we have no saltwater intrusion for the remainder of the season.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Darren » Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:36 am

Perty perty shrimp!

I'm actually hoping to do some transplanting of those very bushes to a blind or two of ours as they're common in the area and we routinely brush with them. I don't care for the fuzzies they're known for in fall, but they're sturdy and dense for brushing blinds. Downside is they do eventually lose all their leaves after being cut so takes some replenishing.

But if they're growing there already......then more apt to keep their leaves!
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby DComeaux » Mon Sep 08, 2025 7:38 am

Darren wrote:Perty perty shrimp!

I'm actually hoping to do some transplanting of those very bushes to a blind or two of ours as they're common in the area and we routinely brush with them. I don't care for the fuzzies they're known for in fall, but they're sturdy and dense for brushing blinds. Downside is they do eventually lose all their leaves after being cut so takes some replenishing.

But if they're growing there already......then more apt to keep their leaves!



The fuzzies are a pain. Up the nostrils they go.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Deltaman » Mon Sep 08, 2025 9:22 am

Sweet shrimp perk Dave!!!!!
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby DComeaux » Tue Sep 09, 2025 10:20 pm

Duck Engr wrote:I emailed DU about just that discrepancy, Dave. They produced the following podcast:

https://youtu.be/X22XQPZbHRI?si=OrIWVpKIL7O_vOc6

Start about the 55 minute mark.

Evidently info gets fed into the computer model each year and it gets reformulated based on habitat, predicted harvest, and surveyed harvest. Now whether or not you think the data is accurate, that’s a fair critique. Best they have currently though.


I thought I'd move this out of Darren's log. I just feel that these models lag too far behind the actual. The Pintal experiment will be interesting to watch. The take on those will rise, no doubt. Some areas will get their per man limit on every hunt.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Darren » Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:20 am

Now having watched it, sure enough the framework adapts nearly each year, and in some cases drastically. Notably, it changes for the more conservative, and the less, just the same. Sometimes the liberal areas are huge, sometimes much smaller, etc.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Ducaholic » Wed Sep 10, 2025 2:44 pm

Of late the liberal options have grown and now we count US and Canadian Ponds where as in the past it was only Canadian Ponds. As late as 2022 the AHM would have dictated conservative seasons based on 2024 and 2025 numbers. It would now take significant drops in pond and mallards numbers to bring conservative seasons into the fold. I'm not advocating either way but I do find it interesting.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Darren » Thu Sep 11, 2025 7:27 am

How could we have previously not accounted for US ponds with so much of the PPR here in the States?
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Ducaholic » Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:03 am

Darren wrote:How could we have previously not accounted for US ponds with so much of the PPR here in the States?



Good question but that is my understanding based on information shared.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Darren » Thu Sep 11, 2025 11:42 am

Ducaholic wrote:
Darren wrote:How could we have previously not accounted for US ponds with so much of the PPR here in the States?


Good question but that is my understanding based on information shared.


As of the 2015 survey report, it was 1974 when they started counting US ponds in addition to canadian ponds.

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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Ducaholic » Thu Sep 11, 2025 2:30 pm

See footnote C for AHM. Counting and using them for AHM appears to be different.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Ducaholic » Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:12 pm

After 2022 AHM added the US ponds to the matrix as I understand it.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Duck Engr » Thu Sep 11, 2025 10:12 pm

Ducaholic wrote:After 2022 AHM added the US ponds to the matrix as I understand it.
Yep they’ve counted US ponds for many years but only recently added them to the matrix for whatever reason.
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Darren » Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:12 am

Duck Engr wrote:
Ducaholic wrote:After 2022 AHM added the US ponds to the matrix as I understand it.
Yep they’ve counted US ponds for many years but only recently added them to the matrix for whatever reason.


Gotcha, "Big Duck" made that happen. :D
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Re: Post Season Things

Postby Ducaholic » Fri Sep 12, 2025 7:39 am

Ha...It will be interesting to gauge what the bounce back is once water returns to the PPR.
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